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Dr. Doom
01-16-2012, 16:29
Volch has been amazing on the PK and I think it is pretty easy to notice. He blocks so many shots and allows for the puck to be cleared. There was definitely a difference when he was out. The PK was still good but it wasn't as dominant.

Big#D
01-16-2012, 16:52
I think the PP has been incredible strong because of the forwards more than anything this year. Parise & Henrique especially cause the opponents PP to maybe move the puck down low if pressured for fear of giving up a shorty. Interested by this topic I see "In Lou We Trust" has an article a few days old on the Devils PK...

http://www.inlouwetrust.com/2012/1/13/2703196/the-bewildering-brilliance-of-the-new-jersey-devils-penalty-kill-best-in-the-world

Haven't read it all yet but soon will.

I think that Henrique and Parise can be aggressive on the PK because they trust the guys behind them to be able to clear the puck if it gets down behind the goal line. And really, for all the flash of Henrique and Parise on the PK, I'd take Zubrus and Elias any day of the week over them. They might not be agressive and go for the break away like speedy, younger guys do, but they are solid with the puck and great at clearing it out in conjunction with the defenders, supporting and working together with the d-men as one cohesive unit, rather than relying on them.

vonbonds
01-16-2012, 17:00
The article was pretty interesting theorizing that the PK is spread among a few more forwards this year thus keeping them a bit fresher. Ultimately they aren't quite sure why the PK has been as good.

Dr. Doom
01-17-2012, 06:33
Tom Gulitti @TGfireandice 2m
Devils have called up centers Jacob Josefson and Brad Mills from Albany.

Devilsfanatic
01-17-2012, 07:02
Mills coming means that Henrique will be out too. IMO. I also think Zajac is done for the year.

Getzo5
01-17-2012, 07:28
I hear people say that...but I see it work just as well when they are out of the lineup. I dunno...Then you`re not watching it the right way. Just like you don`t need 6 grenade handlers, you don`t need 6 soft PMDs. Ideally you have a guy like Shea Weber who does it all. But overall toughness and pure defensive ability is still a valuable asset. NHL changed, true, just as we don`t need enforcers as much as in the past, we don`t need SAH D, BUT we still need them to some extent. CD said it best. I can`t find his post right now, but it was something like this: any good defense should consist of: #1PMD/minute eater, #2, two other PMDs, versatile player, SAH D. That way you can have various combinations (PP, PK, 5on5, 4on4).

People who think those types are (already) expendable don`t know what they`re talking about, no disrespect. Just watch Buffalo before they got Regehr, or last year`s Sharks and think of that defense without Murray. It`s ridiculous. No shot blocking, no ability to clear the crease, no hits in the corners, plenty of giveaways = easy way to score against them. It`s really important. I don`t want to sound like Trotts, but those are the things that will always be helpful. Just to be clear, many young D coming into this league are able to do both (some are more offensive-minded, some more defensive-minded - see Urbom and Merrill), but there are differencies. Eventually we might see teams full of two-way Ds, but that`s the sound of the future. We live in present.

Getzo5
01-17-2012, 07:34
So as much as I dislike Trottier and his grumpy posts, I absolutely have to agree that nu-NHL fans are pissing me off at times and I`m not nearly as conservative as him. That`s why I can`t stand DATW, he doesn`t look at the big picture and doesn`t realize the specifics of other teams. Just has his idea of what today`s NHL represent. I know some fans who are able to do that, maybe that`s why I`m hard at him. I`m sure he`d run the Canadiens better than Gauthier though lol. Nevermind. Enough of this.

No Henrique makes me sad. Eager to see Josefson back.

Clarkson Falls Down
01-17-2012, 08:27
I think it's time to start looking at upcoming UFA bottom 6 centers on non contending teams. I'm starting to think Gaustad, Moore and Pahlsson are good fits for this team.

Getzo5
01-17-2012, 09:07
I think it's time to start looking at upcoming UFA bottom 6 centers on non contending teams. I'm starting to think Gaustad, Moore and Pahlsson are good fits for this team.Slater please. Moore would be fine, he has a mean streak too.

Getzo5
01-18-2012, 08:51
http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=1081291&page=4

lmao

Clarkson Falls Down
01-18-2012, 08:57
http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=1081291&page=4

lmao

So that's what he said. Puck Daddy tweeted cryptically about it yesterday and then wouldn't say what Weekes said.

Clarkson Falls Down
01-18-2012, 08:58
Good to see Henrique back as well. Hoping he plays tomorrow.

Getzo5
01-18-2012, 09:09
Lmao discussion, just to be clear.

Good to see Henrique back and skating. Hopefully he`ll be ready to go tomorrow.

Clarkson Falls Down
01-19-2012, 07:41
Henrique will play tonight, Tedenby will sit.

Tao Jones
01-19-2012, 08:00
Janssen in, Boulton out.

Dr. Doom
01-19-2012, 08:29
Why aren't we allowed to have a 4th line that can score?

Clarkson Falls Down
01-19-2012, 08:49
Why aren't we allowed to have a 4th line that can score?

Yeah, the 4th line chock full of goons didn't exactly work last time against this team.

Big#D
01-19-2012, 11:45
Just once, before Zajac gets back, I'd like to see:
Parise-Henrique-Kovalchuk
Sykora-Elias-Zubrus
Tedenby-Josefson-Clarkson
Boulton-Carter-Mills/Zalewski

Clarkson Falls Down
01-19-2012, 14:01
Lou made it seem like that it was a possibility of Tedenby being sent down. I sorta advocated for that in the beginning of the season, but Lou needs to make a move for real bottom 6 guys - like Moen, Gaustad, Moore - and not for Janssen and Boulton.

Classic Devil
01-19-2012, 15:33
Lou made it seem like that it was a possibility of Tedenby being sent down. I sorta advocated for that in the beginning of the season, but Lou needs to make a move for real bottom 6 guys - like Moen, Gaustad, Moore - and not for Janssen and Boulton.

A few years ago now, after we lost Jim McKenzie, I remember a Lou interview where he was commenting on McKenzie's departure, and he said that it was a significantly bigger loss than he'd expected, not because of what Jim brought to the ice every night (although he was probably the best pure enforcer we've ever had, since he could take a regular shift) but because of what McKenzie had brought to the locker room. I think Lou's taken the lessons from that a little too far - I agree that we need one Cam Janssen or one Eric Boulton, not just because of what they bring to the ice but also because of what they bring to the locker room - but certainly not two.

Personally, I'd love to bring in Moen. Or Slater. Or both. I'd even give both guys something like $1.5M. It'd be like having Turner Stevenson back, or Mike Rupp before his ego started to outweigh his body mass. That's not to say I don't want to keep Janssen - I certainly do - but we do need those real 4th line forwards, the ones who can actually play.

Moen - Slater - Zharkov would be c'est awesome.

Zajac's Bowl Cut
01-19-2012, 16:32
I loved Jim Mckenzie

and Turner Stevenson

Zajac's Bowl Cut
01-19-2012, 18:27
so with Tallinder now basically out for the year, when does Lou make a move? we can't go forward with Foster/Tao getting big minutes

hurry back andy greene

Getzo5
01-19-2012, 18:45
Now that Tallinder is out, we might ship Tedenby`s butt out of town. I just hope it`ll be worth it and doesn`t bite us in the *** later on. If we rely on Foster and fresh-coming-off-an-injury Greene to get us in the playoffs, we`re fucked. Forget about some solid bottom6 depth, we need something different more. Should`ve claimed Yip. lol

VaxjoDevil
01-19-2012, 18:48
I'm all for Tedenby getting traded. He's getting nothing going with DeBoer anyway.

vonbonds
01-19-2012, 19:06
What type of player can Tedenby bring back in a trade? Other teams GM's are watching our games too and see he hasn't worked for us so far. He has to be part of a package.

Island of Misfit Toys trade...

Merrill + Tendenby for?

Zajac's Bowl Cut
01-19-2012, 19:11
unless its part of a package to get a bonafide #1 DMan, I don't want to trade Merrill at all

Getzo5
01-19-2012, 19:20
Fucking ownership, we don`t even know what we can afford.

VaxjoDevil
01-19-2012, 19:21
I still have this feeling that Rangers are getting back to reality. I think the Jan. 31 game can be won.

Getzo5
01-19-2012, 19:54
http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/showpost.php?p=42769229&postcount=1000

Say yes. *cough* *cough*


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wF87vHYDjc

JimEIV
01-19-2012, 22:42
I wonder if the Ducks would be interested in moving Beauchemin? I think he would be a great addition to the Devils defense. He is a UFA.

Tao Jones
01-20-2012, 08:31
Tom Gulitti

No roster moves for Devils so far today. Six healthy defensemen on the ice for today's practice. Janssen and Tedenby are extra forwards.

vonbonds
01-20-2012, 11:30
Tom Gulitti

No roster moves for Devils so far today. Six healthy defensemen on the ice for today's practice. Janssen and Tedenby are extra forwards.

I have never watched the Devils for this long with so many players that I don't like on the active roster playing on a regular basis.

Dislike watching on the ice...

Foster - Dealt with more in his life than most can imagine losing an infant so I root for him but he is just a brutal player.
Boulton - What exactly is his role and what does he do?
Jannsen - Nothing needs to be said.
Sestito - What is he good at?


On the fence...

Tallinder - Not sure why but he hasn't seemed to find his game on a regular basis with the Devils other than the nice run we had late last year.
Volchenkov - I hated his stone hands and zero offensive ability but lately he has been evolving into a better all around player. Please keep it up.
Salvador - Same as Volchenkov but he too has tried to improve his play in the offensive zone as well as puck handling.
Mills - Love his hustle and attitude but appears like Pelley 2.0 with decent face-off ability.
Carter - Started off with a bang but has cooled off significantly and is most notable for badly timed penalties.

Classic Devil
01-20-2012, 21:16
I have never watched the Devils for this long with so many players that I don't like on the active roster playing on a regular basis.

Dislike watching on the ice...

Foster - Dealt with more in his life than most can imagine losing an infant so I root for him but he is just a brutal player.
Boulton - What exactly is his role and what does he do?
Jannsen - Nothing needs to be said.
Sestito - What is he good at?


On the fence...

Tallinder - Not sure why but he hasn't seemed to find his game on a regular basis with the Devils other than the nice run we had late last year.
Volchenkov - I hated his stone hands and zero offensive ability but lately he has been evolving into a better all around player. Please keep it up.
Salvador - Same as Volchenkov but he too has tried to improve his play in the offensive zone as well as puck handling.
Mills - Love his hustle and attitude but appears like Pelley 2.0 with decent face-off ability.
Carter - Started off with a bang but has cooled off significantly and is most notable for badly timed penalties.


I feel like Volchenkov's offensive game is really underrated by our fanbase at large. No, he's never going to put up points, but the moments I notice him the most on the ice all involve well-timed pinches in the offensive zone.

Devilsfanatic
01-20-2012, 21:41
I feel like Volchenkov's offensive game is really underrated by our fanbase at large. No, he's never going to put up points, but the moments I notice him the most on the ice all involve well-timed pinches in the offensive zone.

100% agreed with this. I wonder why the points don't come? You'd think he'd get a few by accident.

Getzo5
01-21-2012, 07:24
From last year to this Volchenkov has been getting much more involved in some rushes or even by himself in the offensive zone

Last game alone he did it about 2-3 times and it always makes me chuckle a bit (in a good way) to see him get involved as a defensive specialist - I too am sort of suprised he hasn't gotten a few pts by accident but I've noticed a lot of the times he goes deep into the offensive zone, it's when we are a line change and he's kind of down there by himself......he usually has a good ammount of SOG and they get to the net so that also suprises me as to why he hasn't gotten a few more points

Regardless though he's looked pretty much like what I expected out of him when we signed him, this season and it's good to see that he's been healthy1) It shows you he`s smart and knows his role perfectly. When there`s a need/an opening, he goes for it.
2) simply because we might be one of the worst if not THE worst team in front of the netminder. No converting on rebounds/deflections/screens.

Devilsfanatic
01-21-2012, 07:27
If we make the playoffs, he will be highly instrumental to our cause.

Getzo5
01-21-2012, 13:31
Can't disagree with you there Getzo although we've gotten better......Clarkson and Parise have been huge for us in that, Zubrus too and even Sykora has chipped in a few in front of the net or off rebounds

From TG;Yeah, a little bit. Still not nearly enough.

Kovalchuk: “All the shots were from the outside and no screen. I can play goal and save them. "

Clarkson Falls Down
01-21-2012, 14:18
Yeah, a little bit. Still not nearly enough.

Kovalchuk: “All the shots were from the outside and no screen. I can play goal and save them. "

100% true. Bryz left out some nice rebounds today and the Devils failed to jump on them every time.

guyincognito
01-21-2012, 16:10
They didn't do a good job of getting "inside" against Boston, either. They kinda lack that power guy to get into the crease/low slot and cause problems. Zach is an opportunist and will get killed if he tries to just sit there. Seems like the only way they can get someone set up consistently low is a set play like the goal against Boston.

Clarkson Falls Down
01-22-2012, 08:19
Zalewski sent down instead of the incomparable Brad Mills.

Zajac's Bowl Cut
01-23-2012, 07:25
Harrold called up

savior!!

vonbonds
01-23-2012, 08:12
Zalewski sent down instead of the incomparable Brad Mills.


Harrold called up

savior!!

That all pretty much sums up where we are as a franchise at this point. :facepalm:

I actually liked Zalewski so far. He actually created a little offense compared to what Mills usually brings.

Big#D
01-23-2012, 08:27
Harrold called up

savior!!

But Brad Mills was apparantly kidnapped. :worries:

Dr. Doom
01-23-2012, 11:20
Tom Gulitti @TGfireandice 1h
Martin Brodeur will start in net Tuesday vs. Buffalo.

I would have really liked Moose to get the start.

Tom Gulitti @TGfireandice 1h
DeBoer said Peter Harrold "might play" Tuesday. He said some other were nursing minor things to, so Harold's status probably depends on that
Please god no. I don't even know why he was the person that was called up.

Tao Jones
01-23-2012, 14:22
Harrold is this season's Leach.

Harrold is usually paired with Urbom on the top pairing ES and PP.

Albany next plays Friday and Saturday.

I wouldn't be surprised if Harrold is back down to play this weekend during the NHL ASB.

Same with Mills.

Clarkson Falls Down
01-23-2012, 14:33
I would have really liked Moose to get the start.

Please god no. I don't even know why he was the person that was called up.

He'll sit Taormina for him, when it should be Foster.

Devilsfanatic
01-23-2012, 14:35
Foster has been demoted to PP2. I think he likes Taormina as evidenced by his ice time the last game.

Zajac's Bowl Cut
01-23-2012, 21:15
http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/showthread.php?t=1088879

i have no words.

Clarkson Falls Down
01-23-2012, 21:20
Just firebomb that trade board.

guyincognito
01-24-2012, 05:25
I smacked around a Parise thread for around an hour for shits and giggles. Just overwhelmed them rambling about hockey business. lol. I needed to get my fix in.

Devilsfanatic
01-24-2012, 08:06
Harrold playing RW tonight.

Dr. Doom
01-24-2012, 08:24
Harrold playing RW tonight.
what the hell is deboer thinking?

Devilsfanatic
01-24-2012, 08:25
what the hell is deboer thinking?

That I don't want Cam Janssen in the line up? And in case my defenseman who are already banged up get hurt tonight, I can still have six D instead of seven?

Dr. Doom
01-24-2012, 08:36
That I don't want Cam Janssen in the line up? And in case my defenseman who are already banged up get hurt tonight, I can still have six D instead of seven?
There are so many better options in the system than Harrold. There are a lot of better options in the system than a lot of the players we use.

Zajac's Bowl Cut
01-24-2012, 08:42
Harrold is going to play on the PP. Deboer loves Foster for some reason and Tao has done pretty well recently so there isnt really a DMan he wants to sit.

I have no problem with it

Devilsfanatic
01-24-2012, 09:03
There are so many better options in the system than Harrold. There are a lot of better options in the system than a lot of the players we use.

Like what? We need d-men who have experience lining up at F. Since Corrente is out (it would have been his spot), they'll use Harrold who did it in LA.

Dr. Doom
01-24-2012, 09:06
Like what? We need d-men who have experience lining up at F. Since Corrente is out (it would have been his spot), they'll use Harrold who did it in LA.
Why is that exactly what we need? Who defines that we need a d-man that can play wing in the lineup right now?

Big#D
01-24-2012, 09:24
if they're going to double shift kovalchuk on the 4th line anyways, they might as well put in a guy who has nhl experience at both d and wing.

Devilsfanatic
01-24-2012, 09:33
Why is that exactly what we need? Who defines that we need a d-man that can play wing in the lineup right now?

Because, in case you didn't notice the lack of ice time for Sal and Volch the last game, our D is banged up, and any one of those guys is a tweak away from being out of the game tonight. Do you want to see us with 5 D and Cam Janssen if one does get injured?

Dr. Doom
01-24-2012, 09:40
But why not just call up a defenseman? Do you think Harrold is the best we could call up? There doesn't seem to be a big problem double shifting or not giving the 4th line much time anyways.

Devilsfanatic
01-24-2012, 09:50
But why not just call up a defenseman? Do you think Harrold is the best we could call up? There doesn't seem to be a big problem double shifting or not giving the 4th line much time anyways.

Harrold is a defenseman. I don't think I'd want Urbom up and then line him up at forward while the six are rotating. I think Harrold, because he's not going to progress much further as a player, is a fine option there, whereas, moving Urbom to F screws up his development, which I'm not ready to do.

Devilsfanatic
01-24-2012, 11:26
Corrente played RW for a bit too, even think in the playoffs

Pete is looking for offense from the bottom 6 - we haven't gotten any so hey I guess Harrold deserves a shot :laugh:

Corrente is injured. Otherwise he'd have been up. he adds grit and plays D/W. DeBoer would love him.

Getzo5
01-24-2012, 12:50
Corrente is injured. Otherwise he'd have been up. he adds grit and plays D/W. DeBoer would love him.Such a shame. I was really hoping he`d get a look. Started the season very strong.

Devilsfanatic
01-24-2012, 13:15
I think it is safe to say Corrente may not see NHL ice again.....injuries have pretty much killed a lot of the opportunities he has had

Yep. When he does well, he's injured. Oh well, he's a 30th overall first rounder.

Devilsfanatic
01-24-2012, 13:21
I've been meaning to tell you this and finally remembered

MSG airs game promos for the upcoming Devils game and one of the highlights they showed for tonights game was of Sykora and Elias hugging and you (well half at least) jumping up in the background :laugh:

Nice :) hopefully I get that much face time on Feb. 14th. This time I made sure my tickets were 1st row behind the Devils bench.

Devilsfanatic
01-25-2012, 08:28
Adam Larsson out of all-star weekend.

Dr. Doom
01-25-2012, 08:29
Adam Larsson out of all-star weekend.
He probably wants to rest some bumps and bruises. I wouldn't be surprised if Henrique does the same thing.

Devilsfanatic
01-25-2012, 08:30
He probably wants to rest some bumps and bruises.

Henrique should leave as well. A real F U to the NHL for not having Kovalchuk or Elias on the team.

Dr. Doom
01-25-2012, 09:25
Tom Gulitti @TGfireandice 2m
I'm told Adam Larsson and Adam Henrique will not be attending all-star festivities now. Waiting for explanation.

There it is.

Vinnie
01-25-2012, 09:28
I love it. **** you, NHL.

VaxjoDevil
01-25-2012, 09:34
I join in the FU NHL-choir. Worthless POS event it is.

Devilsfanatic
01-25-2012, 09:39
:laugh: I was gonna go, but I canceled.

Getzo5
01-25-2012, 09:49
FU NHL? This is a Lou move. They are not going to say FU Hartsie, FU Neal, you`re going nowhere because uncle Lou removed his kiddos from the ASG roster.

Clarkson Falls Down
01-25-2012, 09:54
Good, I wasn't going to watch a second of it anyway.

Devilsfanatic
01-25-2012, 09:57
Yesterday, there are two quotes from Henny that his groin is fine. Then today, it's not :laugh:

VaxjoDevil
01-25-2012, 10:08
FU NHL? This is a Lou move. They are not going to say FU Hartsie, FU Neal, you`re going nowhere because uncle Lou removed his kiddos from the ASG roster.

Yep, I also think it's Lou. But the pretty massive fallout of players is still FU NHL and their silly fan voting.

I let Don speak on this kind of thing:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=twWRTSRd59E

"Red Lack Havacock"...epic.

Devilsfanatic
01-25-2012, 10:14
Ron's subtle "yeah, I agree" is the bees knees.

Devilsfanatic
01-25-2012, 12:07
http://blogs.northjersey.com/blogs/fireice/comments/greene_on_schedule_to_practice_with_the_team_on_mo nday_no_timetable_for_zajac_to_begin_skating/

ROFL. He's done.

Clarkson Falls Down
01-25-2012, 12:16
Yep, nice job bringing him back to soon.

Word for the wise during the offseason. Don't do Pilates or whatever the **** he did.

Dr. Doom
01-25-2012, 12:18
You mean plyometrics? Every athlete does them for training.

guyincognito
01-25-2012, 13:56
Didn't someone actually say it was a basketball related injury and the workout was a cover?

Big#D
01-26-2012, 06:08
from a NY Post article about trading vs keeping Parise...

"I’m here to win. We’re here to win,” GM Lou Lamoriello told The Post yesterday. “Everybody can do all the speculating they want. But I can assure you, we’re here to win and we will do what it takes.”
That’s as specific as he’d get on keeping an unsigned Parise. Draw conclusions at your own risk."

I love how Everson says "Draw conclusions at your own risk." That's fucking hilarious.

VaxjoDevil
01-26-2012, 07:50
I don't think it's impossible to draw a conclusion that if Parise doesn't sign at a certain time, he'd be prepared to trade him. If he thinks the team benefits. I like the quote from Lou.

Clarkson Falls Down
01-26-2012, 08:28
He's absolutely not trading him. I think that quote says that he'll add to the team, not trade Parise.

Tao Jones
01-26-2012, 08:39
Taormina and Josefson sent to Albany for Friday and Saturday night games.

Dr. Doom
01-26-2012, 08:39
Tom Gulitti @TGfireandice
Devils assign Matt Taormina and Jacob Josefson to Albany.

Could be just for the all star break.

Zajac's Bowl Cut
01-26-2012, 09:37
so Subway has vouchers for $5 tickets to 4 games

2/9 STL
2/17- ANA
3/15- COL
3/29- TB

Devilsfanatic
01-26-2012, 09:38
so Subway has vouchers for $5 tickets to 4 games

2/9 STL
2/17- ANA
3/15- COL
3/29- TB

That's Phoenixian levels of desperate.

Dr. Doom
01-26-2012, 09:45
They really need to figure out this financial situation.

Getzo5
01-26-2012, 09:48
http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/showthread.php?t=1087659&page=12

Great debate for teh lulz. No worries Jim, I`m posting because of DATW. Oh Snape!

Devilsfanatic
01-26-2012, 09:55
All that nonsense, is exactly why I don't post there anymore. Take that rubbish elsewhere.

Getzo5
01-26-2012, 09:59
Just do not punch me in the face, please. :( I`m sorry.

Ok, not really, but if there`s something I can do for you, just let me know bro. *cough*

Vinnie
01-26-2012, 10:14
That's Phoenixian levels of desperate.

No financial problems here.

Clarkson Falls Down
01-26-2012, 11:11
http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/showthread.php?t=1087659&page=12

Great debate for teh lulz. No worries Jim, I`m posting because of DATW. Oh Snape!

It's the same argument on there every day. It just got so exhausting for me, and that was 2 seasons ago.

Getzo5
01-26-2012, 11:22
It's the same argument on there every day. It just got so exhausting for me, and that was 2 seasons ago.Today`s the first time he admitted and realized why he was wrong. Maybe there`s a light at the end of the tunnel. #progress

Devilsfanatic
01-26-2012, 11:36
It's the same argument on there every day. It just got so exhausting for me, and that was 2 seasons ago.

Yeah, and then when we question Lou, our thread gets shut down. I wonder if it would have got shut down if I started the thread?

Getzo5
01-26-2012, 12:19
Yeah, and then when we question Lou, our thread gets shut down. I wonder if it would have got shut down if I started the thread?Probably not. Double standard works everywhere.

Zajac's Bowl Cut
01-26-2012, 12:25
http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/showpost.php?p=43147019&postcount=38

http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/showpost.php?p=43148677&postcount=50

just in case you wanted to laugh today.

vonbonds
01-26-2012, 12:30
Today`s the first time he admitted and realized why he was wrong. Maybe there`s a light at the end of the tunnel. #progress

DATW really came off poorly today (some say more often). Keeping doing what you are doing Getzo, you know your stuff and it is evident every time I read what you write.

Devilsfanatic
01-26-2012, 12:40
Kershaw isn't wrong. The Rangers today, are a superior organization, as far as the present goes.

Zajac's Bowl Cut
01-26-2012, 12:42
I didn't address that part. they are a better team, I'm not doubting that

its the rest of those posts that bother me

Devilsfanatic
01-26-2012, 12:47
They have the money for Parise? I think not. And why move Gaborik? He's been a team MVP AFAIC. I don't care what happens to Parise anymore. He's shown me this year that, while, he's a good piece, he's not THE piece. I'd rather move him, have healthy C's and get a stud D.

Getzo5
01-26-2012, 12:48
http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/showpost.php?p=43147019&postcount=38

http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/showpost.php?p=43148677&postcount=50

just in case you wanted to laugh today.Doesn`t get any better than that. lol


DATW really came off poorly today (some say more often). Keeping doing what you are doing Getzo, you know your stuff and it is evident every time I read what you write.One thing I should`ve mentioned but didn`t because enough is enough. Of all the people on HF he`s the one talking about some posts being tiresome? :laugh:

He thinks it`s personal. Believe me, it`s not. Especially because his "flawless logic", relentless attitute and ability to turn any kind of discussion into a pissing match can destroy any thread. I don`t do it because of him. I could care less. I do it because of the board. It`s mods` responsibility, but I`m not going to just sit back and watch. Probably a professional deformation since I was a mod (elsewhere) before. You know, some people could accidentally get the impression he`s right. haha

Getzo5
01-26-2012, 12:50
They have the money for Parise? I think not. And why move Gaborik? He's been a team MVP AFAIC. I don't care what happens to Parise anymore. He's shown me this year that, while, he's a good piece, he's not THE piece. I'd rather move him, have healthy C's and get a stud D.Thank God Trottier isn`t and won`t ever be here.

I agree.

Devilsfanatic
01-26-2012, 12:54
Well, whatever you do, keep it there. Don't need to hear about it here. I'm quite happy not knowing what's going on, on the Young and the Restless.

Getzo5
01-26-2012, 12:58
Well, whatever you do, keep it there. Don't need to hear about it here. I'm quite happy not knowing what's going on, on the Young and the Restless.Only a Ranger fan thinking they will sign ZP gets a pass? :sarcasm:

Roger that, commander.

vonbonds
01-26-2012, 13:11
Yeah, and then when we question Lou, our thread gets shut down. I wonder if it would have got shut down if I started the thread?

I remember writing a fairly critical post about Lou and RG deleted it along with others. It is impossible to say anything against Lou in HF.

Devilsfanatic
01-26-2012, 13:23
Only a Ranger fan thinking they will sign ZP gets a pass? :sarcasm:

Roger that, commander.

Not trying to be a ****. I think, I'm the only person here who doesn't actually read HF. Only time i do is when you fuckers post something, and then my brain hurts and my ***** goes soft.

Getzo5
01-26-2012, 13:35
Not trying to be a ****. I think, I'm the only person here who doesn't actually read HF. Only time i do is when you fuckers post something, and then my brain hurts and my ***** goes soft.Oh don`t worry, I have no problem with that whatsoever. ;) Btw. check out the Bullshit thread.

And take some medicine, nobody likes headaches and soft penises. lol

Devilsfanatic
01-26-2012, 13:58
Subway did it last year as well and I'll be sure to take advantage of it this year as well - c'mon down to a game DF, how can you pass that up? :laugh:

I'm trying. It just depends on how the playoff schedule shapes up for me in my job. We've got a month left in the season, and then it's playoff time. But, at least, Feb. 14th, I'll be behind the Devils bench, trying to get phone numbers.

guyincognito
01-26-2012, 14:17
They really need to figure out this financial situation.

Has nothing to do with it, they could sell those tickets for $1,000 and it wouldn't help their rumored situation. They're not necessarily cash poor, they're in a debt spiral. If they were cash poor they wouldn't be taking on stiffs like Poni and Foster and paying their salaries.

Devilsfanatic
01-26-2012, 14:26
Nah I hear you, it can be tough to squeeze in (edit: thats what she said), you plan on getting to NJ for any games this year towards March/April/potentially beyond?

I hope so. Just depends on scheduling. If they make the playoffs, I want a playoff game.

Devilsfanatic
01-26-2012, 15:03
M Spider @mspeier84
@Vishal_Hussain @tsnbobmckenzie never say never...NJ has serious money problem and can't afford 9...they are having issues paying 17

lol. everyone knows everything, apparently.

guyincognito
01-26-2012, 15:17
M Spider @mspeier84
@Vishal_Hussain @tsnbobmckenzie never say never...NJ has serious money problem and can't afford 9...they are having issues paying 17

lol. everyone knows everything, apparently.

Ask him how the **** they can add nobodies like 2 and 12 if they can't pay 17. Eh, I don't blame the individuals, it's shotty reporting. They are not functionally broke. But when people throw terms around like that and don't explain them, or the people who read are too stupid to read for comprehension, this happens.

Zajac's Bowl Cut
01-26-2012, 15:22
people just don't understand that they are HUNDRED OF MILLIONS in debt

paying Kovalchuk $7 million or $10 million is so small compared to what they owe lol

guyincognito
01-26-2012, 15:29
people just don't understand that they are HUNDRED OF MILLIONS in debt

paying Kovalchuk $7 million or $10 million is so small compared to what they owe lol

Also, it's different money, funny money, and apparently, if the stories are true, they aren't paying it anyway! lol, it's kinda like not paying your credit card bills, now you have found money. So this year, they're not going to have problems paying anybody. :laugh: Obviously you can't just continue doing that next year, though, so they have to find a solution, but if they're adding salary to pay nobodies, they can't be cash poor right now.

Devilsfanatic
01-26-2012, 15:29
Yeah, I don't understand where all these yahoos come from, to be honest.

vonbonds
01-26-2012, 15:31
Yeah, I don't understand where all these yahoos come from, to be honest.

Lesbians = Ratings

Howard Stern always said that. I see all of the Devils money stuff being reported now as the same thing.

Zajac's Bowl Cut
01-26-2012, 16:24
sorry, sorry, but I can't resist:

http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/showpost.php?p=43155523&postcount=168

guyincognito
01-26-2012, 16:30
sorry, sorry, but I can't resist:

http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/showpost.php?p=43155523&postcount=168

He's Canadian. :laugh: Even though he was born in the US and has never played for a team outside of the US and was born in Minny.

guyincognito
01-26-2012, 16:40
I don't think anyone's even proved he's a dual, so that he could be a phony Canadian like Brett Hull was a phony American. Not like Statsny. Sounds like a job for TG.

Devilsfanatic
01-28-2012, 09:05
Greg Wyshynski @wyshynski
Bettman on Devils: Helping owners sort out, team is stable

Also, Parise is an American, and not a dual citizen. His dad and mom are Canadian, however.

Dr. Doom
01-28-2012, 09:07
I have a feeling once the owners play nice everything will be fine.

Devilsfanatic
01-28-2012, 09:09
Just need to get him a new partner and get Chambers out, is all.

Dr. Doom
01-28-2012, 09:11
Just need to get him a new partner and get Chambers out, is all.
Well that's the problem. They want a bunch of money and no one wants to pay what they want.

Getzo5
01-28-2012, 09:24
Is Hulsizer or Peltz still interested?

Devilsfanatic
01-28-2012, 09:32
Wonder if Exxon wants to partner with a former Lehman Brother?

jkrdevil
01-28-2012, 09:38
Uh oh.


Bill Daly confirms the NHL has advanced the #devils money.
https://twitter.com/#!/reporterchris/status/163310494986416129

Hmm perhaps he and Bettman need to get on the same page.

More from Daly:

Daly on NJ: "we hope to have it resolved by the end of the season...but the team is in need of a new principle player"
https://twitter.com/#!/JSportsnet/status/163314527503523840

So the team needs new ownership.

jkrdevil
01-28-2012, 09:41
Rather have Peltz, he's local and we know the source of his billions (Snapple/Wendy's).

Dr. Doom
01-28-2012, 09:44
Uh oh.


https://twitter.com/#!/reporterchris/status/163310494986416129

Hmm perhaps he and Bettman need to get on the same page.

More from Daly:

https://twitter.com/#!/JSportsnet/status/163314527503523840

So the team needs new ownership.
I think it will be similar to the Sabres sale. It shouldn't be too difficult to get done. It doesn't hurt that the arena comes with it.

jkrdevil
01-28-2012, 09:48
The issue of the sale is going to be the debt. I don't think Vanderbeek is willing to walk away with nothing, meaning bankruptcy is likely. Bankruptcy means it gets dragged on and not resolved before July 1.

This is like Dallas (which dragged), not Buffalo.

Devilsfanatic
01-28-2012, 12:26
TG figures this ownership rift ISN'T because of the Kovalchuk contract, but rather, the feud has been ongoing since around 2009.

guyincognito
01-28-2012, 14:57
So, where's the article, not that I'm unsure one will come out of it. Three line tweets don't constitute articles. The only article about this links the tweet.

Dr. Doom
01-28-2012, 14:59
So, where's the article, not that I'm unsure one will come out of it. Three line tweets don't constitute articles. The only article about this links the tweet.
TG did a blog post today. Is that what you're looking for?

Devilsfanatic
01-28-2012, 15:02
So, where's the article, not that I'm unsure one will come out of it. Three line tweets don't constitute articles. The only article about this links the tweet.

I asked him if it was the Kovy contract. He said he wouldn't know. I asked him if he was a Vegas odd-maker, what would be his odds? Would the Kovy contract be the odds on favorite? He said he didn't think so, and that they'd been having problems since the summer of 09, and possibly earlier.

Dr. Doom
01-28-2012, 15:03
I asked him if it was the Kovy contract. He said he wouldn't know. I asked him if he was a Vegas odd-maker, what would be his odds? Would the Kovy contract be the odds on favorite? He said he didn't think so, and that they'd been having problems since the summer of 09, and possibly earlier.
The way that everything reads from the statements that have been released in the two parties just don't get along. It's like a bad divorce. It takes some time to get everything worked out.

guyincognito
01-28-2012, 15:06
I asked him if it was the Kovy contract. He said he wouldn't know. I asked him if he was a Vegas odd-maker, what would be his odds? Would the Kovy contract be the odds on favorite? He said he didn't think so, and that they'd been having problems since the summer of 09, and possibly earlier.

No, the Daly comment. It's a tweet. Maybe it'll eventually graduate to a blurb, but it's pretty disappointing reporting 1) by the guy from CP and 2) by Sporting News, who writes an article that links to a tweet.

I mean Bettman pretty much said the same thing, but it's pretty lame sensationalizing reporting.

guyincognito
01-28-2012, 15:09
From what I read out of that, it's not something I would be worried about as a fan re: this season, it's something I'd be worried about as a employee re: post season. They're going to be laying a shitload of people off for the summer if that's the case, because they're getting fronted their shared HRR money, or a portion of it.

Part of me also wonders if we're sort of a test case for a labor negotiation, like Calgary and Edmonton were in the last one. "Look at these guys, they revenue out $100M a year and they're DOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEED"

Kinda like how Edmonton couldn't afford to operate and then started offering everyone and their mother offer sheets (and traded for Pronger) after the lockout ended.

guyincognito
01-28-2012, 15:17
One thing's for sure though, enjoy this season because next season is going to be an utter disaster. Write a lineup with a floorish payroll. Not cap hit, payroll.

Elias/Kovy/Zajac make probably $20M+ combined. There's your first line. After that it's going to be greenhorn central.

vonbonds
01-28-2012, 15:19
One thing's for sure though, enjoy this season because next season is going to be an utter disaster. Write a lineup with a floorish payroll. Not cap hit, payroll.

Elias/Kovy/Zajac make probably $20M+ combined. There's your first line. After that it's going to be greenhorn central.

You are scaring me with your logic....not seeing a flaw in it.

Devilsfanatic
01-28-2012, 15:22
Who's a greenhorn? What's a greenhorn??

vonbonds
01-28-2012, 15:24
Who's a greenhorn? What's a greenhorn??

The Devils will suit up a few deckhands from the Time Bandit and the Maverick.

guyincognito
01-28-2012, 15:34
You want greenhorns, here's your greenhorns, I present your 2012-13 New Jersey Devils!

CAPGEEK.COM CAP CALCULATOR

FORWARDS
Ilya Kovalchuk ($6.666m) / Patrik Elias ($6.000m) / Travis Zajac ($3.887m)
Dainius Zubrus ($3.400m) / David Clarkson ($2.666m) / Adam Henrique ($0.854m)
Eric Boulton ($0.662m) / Jacob Josefson ($0.900m) / Mattias Tedenby ($0.875m)
Vladimir Zharkov ($0.625m) / Petr Sykora ($1.500m) / Nick Palmieri ($0.850m)
/ Ryan Carter ($0.750m)

DEFENSEMEN
Anton Volchenkov ($4.250m) / Henrik Tallinder ($3.375m)
Andy Greene ($3.000m) / Adam Larsson ($0.925m)
Matthew Taormina ($0.600m) / Alexander Urbom ($0.856m)
Mark Fayne ($1.250m)

GOALTENDERS
Martin Brodeur ($1.000m) / Keith Kinkaid ($0.900m)

BUYOUTS: Colin White ($1.000m) / Trent Hunter ($0.666m)

CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $64,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $47,460,834; BONUSES: $807,500
CAP SPACE (22-man roster): $16,839,166

Obviously under floor to account for the $4M+ overage on Kovy's deal.

guyincognito
01-28-2012, 15:35
They would have to play games to find the rest of the money, but it's not that hard to find guys who are cap boosters. Hell, you can just buy someone out to bump your way up.

guyincognito
01-28-2012, 16:17
Or they could just sell stock in the team. :sarcasm:

VaxjoDevil
01-28-2012, 18:58
I don't understand **** of the financial troubles Devils are in.

vonbonds
01-29-2012, 06:58
I don't understand **** of the financial troubles Devils are in.

At the present time they have too much debt to pay back at the agreed upon schedule and they are unable to refinance. **** won't hit the fan until the end of the season unless Chambers can sell his portion (present owner with minority share).

Here is a visual of their current situation...
Rock <---- Devils ----> Hard Place

VaxjoDevil
01-29-2012, 07:26
Does anybody know how much debt/how large payments we are talking about?

njdevsfn95
01-29-2012, 08:19
I've read the following on 2 loans, either jkr or GIC posted this I believe:

$80M (the one that is 'late' on payment)

and

$140M (tied to the arena)

Clarkson Falls Down
01-29-2012, 09:07
The only thing I know is that it sucks that 2 of my teams are having financial problems.

Devilsfanatic
01-29-2012, 09:23
The only thing I know is that it sucks that 2 of my teams are having financial problems.

Big Coyotes fan, are you?

vonbonds
01-29-2012, 11:50
The only thing I know is that it sucks that 2 of my teams are having financial problems.

Mets are your other team?

Clarkson Falls Down
01-29-2012, 12:02
Mets are your other team?

Si senor.

vonbonds
01-29-2012, 12:25
Si senor.

That is a situation I haven't paid 1 minute of attention to. What happened to them that got them into financial peril or whatever state they are in?

Clarkson Falls Down
01-29-2012, 15:23
That is a situation I haven't paid 1 minute of attention to. What happened to them that got them into financial peril or whatever state they are in?

In short: Bernie Madoff.

jkrdevil
01-29-2012, 19:31
So who the injury of the week going to be this week? :sarcasm:

Cam Janssen or Eric Boulton.

Tao Jones
01-30-2012, 09:15
per TG

Josefson and Taormina recalled from Albany. Tallinder placed on injured reserve.

Tao Jones
01-30-2012, 11:08
per Gulitti

Steve Bernier now on two-way contract with Devils and called up today.

Gets #18.

Zajac's Bowl Cut
01-30-2012, 11:14
cup.jpeg

Devilsfanatic
01-30-2012, 11:19
About tucking fime. I like Bernier, he's not a no talent hack, he's a some talent hack.

Clarkson Falls Down
01-30-2012, 11:23
Yeah seriously...Bernier >> Janssen, Boulton, Mills, Sestito, Zalewski

Devilsfanatic
01-30-2012, 11:26
Now if only they could bring up Zharkov, get a healthy Zajac and we'll be on our way with the lines

Zubrus-Elias-Sykora
Kovalchuk-Henrique-Parise
Ponikarovsky-Zajac-Clarkson
Zharkov-Josefson-Bernier

Now that, my friends, is sexy.

I also didn't think we could bring up Bernier, or get him into a pro contract. I thought we were at 50. TG says we were never close. Wonder what happened?

Tao Jones
01-30-2012, 11:27
Bernier just returned from a broken thumb.

I know this won't stop trade speculation over there, but any trades made by Lou now must have an equal number of NHL signed players going each way or multiple players leaving NJ with fewer coming back, now that the "Reserve List" is topped out at 50.

Tao Jones
01-30-2012, 11:29
Now if only they could bring up Zharkov, get a healthy Zajac and we'll be on our way with the lines

Zubrus-Elias-Sykora
Kovalchuk-Henrique-Parise
Ponikarovsky-Zajac-Clarkson
Zharkov-Josefson-Bernier

Now that, my friends, is sexy.

I also didn't think we could bring up Bernier, or get him into a pro contract. I thought we were at 50. TG says we were never close. Wonder what happened?

Yeah, me too.

http://www.capgeek.com/reserve_lists.php?team_id=20

Devilsfanatic
01-30-2012, 11:30
Bernier just returned from a broken thumb.

I know this won't stop trade speculation over there, but any trades made by Lou now must have an equal number of NHL signed players going each way or multiple players leaving NJ with fewer coming back, now that the "Reserve List" is topped out at 50.

Do you have a list? TG says we're still not there. OK, now we are there according to CapGeek.

Tao Jones
01-30-2012, 11:31
I'm guessing players on LTIR don't count.

I remember Philly being up to 52 or 53 at one point.

Devilsfanatic
01-30-2012, 11:33
That's what I thought, but CapGeek now would be 50 with Bernier added.

You know, say what you will about TG, but the dude takes time to answer almost EVERY question I throw at him. That's pretty cool. McKenzie and the other guys don't give you the time of day.

He asked Lou if they think there's a chance that Zajac misses the whole season to which Lou replied "I'd be surprised"

Devilsfanatic
01-30-2012, 13:39
Classic Henrique.

Clarkson Falls Down
01-30-2012, 14:27
Would be nice to have a sorta healthy forward lineup against the Rangers. No Elias last time, no Henrique this time.

I have a bad feeling about this week.

VaxjoDevil
01-30-2012, 14:42
Just never catch a break with injuries. Henrique is just about the most important player right now offensively.

Tao Jones
01-30-2012, 15:34
I was hoping Henrique would beat Henrik.

Tao Jones
01-30-2012, 16:21
AHL ASG

http://veetle.com/index.php/channel/view#4f272d255bf77

Zajac's Bowl Cut
01-31-2012, 09:42
10m Tom Gulitti Tom Gulitti @TGfireandice
Parise said again today there have been no contract talks. He'd talk if they want, but understands Devs' record of not doing so in season.


9m Tom Gulitti Tom Gulitti @TGfireandice
Parise also reiterated his desire to re-sign and thinks there would be plenty of time after the season to do that.

Tom Gulitti @TGfireandice
So, in other words, nothing has changed.

Clarkson Falls Down
01-31-2012, 09:59
There's no point in updating people about it anymore. We'll find out where he goes July 1.

onefatsurfer
01-31-2012, 12:04
Parise is a goner.

Devilsfanatic
01-31-2012, 12:41
Screw Parise.

Getzo5
01-31-2012, 12:52
http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/showpost.php?p=43338293&postcount=565

Da ****?

Zajac's Bowl Cut
01-31-2012, 12:58
look at the second comment at 10:41...then nobody says anything about it lol

probably just a troll

http://blogs.northjersey.com/blogs/fireice/comments/devils_begin_sprint_to_the_finish_tonight_vs._rang ers/#comments

Devilsfanatic
01-31-2012, 12:58
I wouldn't make that trade. Someone just being a twat.

Clarkson Falls Down
01-31-2012, 14:07
Yeah, that trade would be awful.

Clarkson Falls Down
01-31-2012, 15:43
Dan Rosen @drosennhl
Gist of Parise stuff is he'd like to negotiate, but understands the Devils don't do that in season. Exception made for Brodeur in 2006.

The "don't negotiate in season" policy is the most ridiculous policy I've ever seen. Geez Lou.

Devilsfanatic
01-31-2012, 15:46
Lou sucks. Fruits had the right thread going about firing that guy. Nostalgia only takes you so fucking far. He built this franchise, but he has to go.

Devilsfanatic
01-31-2012, 19:31
Lou has not been great post lockout, but lets see in 5 years where this team he's currently building is and then I feel it will be able to judge better how he was post lockout with pretty much 2 eras of teams in that period

I just hope the ownership situation doesn't hold him back from doing what he wants and if that is the case, I don't see him sticking around much longer

six years since the lockout and he's made it to the second round twice, which, I guess is nice, but they look like they always get worse. I think some new blood might be needed. I don't know, I respect the man, but this team, the way it's built, drives me nuts. And then he talks about how he's satisfied with the D. HOW?

vonbonds
01-31-2012, 19:38
He doesn't air dirty laundry in the press. Makes it a bit boring for us fans but it is a good policy.

Devilsfanatic
01-31-2012, 19:49
His D has just been sad since the lockout. Some his fault, some not. That drives me nuts.

Clarkson Falls Down
01-31-2012, 20:08
We've taken the cheap way out a couple, maybe even more, with players post-lockout......the off-season where we just brought in a suprise player who turned out to be Illka Pikkarainen screams the above to me

The defense has not been bulit up well at all I can't see how anybody disagrees with that, a lot of losing Dmen each year and plugging in of cheap or lousy replacements for the most part (Lukowich, Matvichuk, Rachunek - RIP, Vishnevski, Murphy, etc)

I don't believe Lou for the reason vonbonds brought up, however what kind of disagrees with that is Lou has used the "we're always looking to improve" line before when asked questions such as his feelings on the D

I like the direction the D is heading, which is partly due to luck (Larsson), but there are some signs of promise. But it's not too hard to put together a decent bottom 6, not addressing PMD sooner, etc.

Dr. Doom
01-31-2012, 20:15
The defense is moving in a great direction with prospects, but it will be some time before we get to enjoy it.

vonbonds
01-31-2012, 20:42
The defense is moving in a great direction with prospects, but it will be some time before we get to enjoy it.

That is the key, it will take some time before we get to enjoy it assuming everyone pans out. Assuming there isn't another Fayne in the bunch we are waiting for Merrill, Urbom and Gelinas most likely.

Dr. Doom
01-31-2012, 21:06
Well that is what happens when you don't draft by need sometimes. If you avoid to draft talent in a position you will become weak at it. It is also due to losing our best defensemen to retirement and ufa.

Dr. Doom
01-31-2012, 21:57
We went the fowards route from 2003-2009 while we kept losing defensemen from our NHL club

Still drafted some D-men, but there were low expectations from them and the only guys that we really saw were Corrente, Magnan, Eckford, Fraser, and now Fayne who has been pretty good
That's what I meant by what I said. We drafted a bunch of forwards, when it was clear that our guys were getting close to retirement and ufa (looking for paydays).

Getzo5
02-01-2012, 03:52
We went the fowards route from 2003-2009 while we kept losing defensemen from our NHL club

Still drafted some D-men, but there were low expectations from them and the only guys that we really saw were Corrente, Magnan, Eckford, Fraser, and now Fayne who has been pretty goodTulupov :cry:

onefatsurfer
02-01-2012, 06:42
corrente busting hurt us pretty bad.

Devilsfanatic
02-01-2012, 08:16
No Elias at practice today, or Salvador. Henrique not skating either. TG thinks Patty will play since Mills is centering line two today, so he was probably given a day off. Salvador, well, he missed the last 7:41 of the game yesterday, so he might be gone. So now, we get Greene back and have already lost Tally and now we lose Sal. This is....amazing.

onefatsurfer
02-01-2012, 08:17
injuries suck.

Dr. Doom
02-01-2012, 08:47
Tom Gulitti @TGfireandice
Jacob Josefson dropped to fourth line between Boulton and Janssen. Ryan Carter centering Ponikarovsky and Bernier on third line.

How long until JJ is in Albany? I know he isn't playing great, but there is no way in hell he is going to improve production when he is playing with Boulton and Janssen.

Devilsfanatic
02-01-2012, 08:52
Josefson sucks. Acquire Carter

Dr. Doom
02-01-2012, 08:54
I thought this wasn't HF where a 20 year old is considered a bust :sarcasm:

Devilsfanatic
02-01-2012, 08:57
He's not a bust, just a wuss *** pretty boy.

Jeff Carter is a proven 30 goal man, although, we probably need a playmaking centre. Acquire Gomez!

Zajac's Bowl Cut
02-01-2012, 09:08
i know youre mostly joking, but I want Carter nowhere near this team

Clarkson Falls Down
02-01-2012, 09:09
No Elias at practice today, or Salvador. Henrique not skating either. TG thinks Patty will play since Mills is centering line two today, so he was probably given a day off. Salvador, well, he missed the last 7:41 of the game yesterday, so he might be gone. So now, we get Greene back and have already lost Tally and now we lose Sal. This is....amazing.

I think Sal's alright. He didn't play the end of regulation because they needed a goal and there's no point of him being out there. And he didn't play in OT because he had a pretty brutal game and coach probably wanted better skaters out there on the 4 on 4.

Devilsfanatic
02-01-2012, 09:09
Then, focus our attention to Ryan Getzlaf. I would move a lot to acquire that balding *******.

Zajac's Bowl Cut
02-01-2012, 09:11
we don't have the assets to acquire Getzlaf without gutting the team

Dr. Doom
02-01-2012, 09:14
This team does not need a trade. We just need some patients. The only position that is worth taking a hit to the team is defense, but it would have to be a guarantee that the person was signed multi-year or we were able to sign him multi-year.

Clarkson Falls Down
02-01-2012, 09:16
This team does not need a trade. We just need some patients. The only position that is worth taking a hit to the team is defense, but it would have to be a guarantee that the person was signed multi-year or we were able to sign him multi-year.

I agree. I just want to see where everything goes with all the young guys, the defense, etc.

I'd give up some young guys for a good young goaltender, but not too much.

Devilsfanatic
02-01-2012, 09:17
Corey Schneider for a 4th.

Dr. Doom
02-01-2012, 09:18
Wedge and Kinkaid. I'm pretty confident in them.

Devilsfanatic
02-01-2012, 10:12
If the Ducks decide to move Getzlaf, what would the Devils have to give up to get that guy?

6'4 240 down the middle would be pretty damn nice.

onefatsurfer
02-01-2012, 10:24
We would have disgusting depth if we traded for Getzlaf

Zajac's Bowl Cut
02-01-2012, 10:32
If the Ducks decide to move Getzlaf, what would the Devils have to give up to get that guy?

6'4 240 down the middle would be pretty damn nice.

I would think Larsson would have to be included

or if anything Zajac, Merrill, 1st+

Devilsfanatic
02-01-2012, 10:33
I would move any roster player/prospect outside of Larsson to get Getzlaf. Well, maybe not Henrique, since Getz is a UFA after next season.


I would think Larsson would have to be included

or if anything Zajac, Merrill, 1st+

They look pretty good on D for the future, I dunno if they're looking for help there. I would think they'd want Henrique though.

Getzo5
02-01-2012, 12:36
Agreed. No Henrique, no Larsson. Otherwise I don`t care. Throw a ****load of players/prospects/picks their way if true.

Zajac's Bowl Cut
02-01-2012, 12:37
I'd give them Henrique easily in the deal. I just don't know what else they would want

Zajac's Bowl Cut
02-01-2012, 12:45
http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/showpost.php?p=43406127&postcount=124

if that isn't your classic Bleedred post, I don't know what is

Clarkson Falls Down
02-01-2012, 12:49
http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/showpost.php?p=43406127&postcount=124

if that isn't your classic Bleedred post, I don't know what is

Every. Single. Post. He writes is at least 3 long paragraphs. Most of them make no sense or no point (like a longer Saugus post) but this one is over the top.

Dr. Doom
02-01-2012, 12:51
cmon, stop bringing these posts here. i come here to avoid that crap.

Zajac's Bowl Cut
02-02-2012, 09:20
@Ledger_NJDevils: Zach Parise said the Devils have told him team and owner Jeff Vanderbeek's financial troubles won't impact their effort to re-sign him.

Dr. Doom
02-02-2012, 09:23
@Ledger_NJDevils: Zach Parise said the Devils have told him team and owner Jeff Vanderbeek's financial troubles won't impact their effort to re-sign him.
I'll believe it when I see it.

Devilsfanatic
02-02-2012, 09:28
more like, I'll believe it when me **** turns purple and smells like rainbow sherbet.

Vinnie
02-02-2012, 09:54
Hooray for false hope!

onefatsurfer
02-02-2012, 12:41
@Ledger_NJDevils: Zach Parise said the Devils have told him team and owner Jeff Vanderbeek's financial troubles won't impact their effort to re-sign him.

It's true. Chambers' financial troubles will impact the re-signing

Devilsfanatic
02-02-2012, 12:47
The funny thing is, they have a policy not to negotiate because it causes a distraction. I'm sorry, how? How does Parise's agent talking to Lou create a distraction for Parise? In fact, I'd say it settles him and he thinks, well at least they're working.

I feel as if getting asked about his contract every day is way more of a fucking distraction. **** you, Lou.

onefatsurfer
02-02-2012, 12:55
Zach wants out, simple as that, IMO

Clarkson Falls Down
02-02-2012, 13:24
The funny thing is, they have a policy not to negotiate because it causes a distraction. I'm sorry, how? How does Parise's agent talking to Lou create a distraction for Parise? In fact, I'd say it settles him and he thinks, well at least they're working.

I feel as if getting asked about his contract every day is way more of a fucking distraction. **** you, Lou.

And it's not like by not negotiating in-season, that the questions every day have stopped. LOL it's probably worse that he isn't negotiating now.

Devilsfanatic
02-02-2012, 21:01
And it's not like by not negotiating in-season, that the questions every day have stopped. LOL it's probably worse that he isn't negotiating now.

That's exactly my point. It's pathetic.

Clarkson Falls Down
02-03-2012, 09:20
Elias fined the max amount for the hit on Blunden. So maybe this means no suspension.

Devilsfanatic
02-03-2012, 09:37
It's definitely no suspension after the fine has been laid out.

Devilsfanatic
02-03-2012, 10:08
Both Adams are not practicing today.

Foster, Fayne, Taormina, Salvador, Volchenkov, Greene your D against the Flyers. Goodnight, sweet prince.

Devilsfanatic
02-03-2012, 10:14
Carter and Larsson both out tomorrow and Henrique as well :laugh:

Now Elias getting suspended would have really been a kick in the groin strain.

Zajac's Bowl Cut
02-03-2012, 10:19
tomorrow will be a blood bath

better hope Bryz is off his rocker again

Clarkson Falls Down
02-03-2012, 10:19
So we're looking at this tomorrow:

Parise - Elias - Kovalchuk
Sykora - Zubrus - Clarkson
Poni - Josefson - Bernier
Boulton - Mills - Janssen

Sal - Volchenkov
Greene - Fayne
Tao - Foster

What a disaster

Devilsfanatic
02-03-2012, 10:21
Mills, Janssen, Foster, Tao, Bernier are all AHL fodder :laugh: if they beat the Flyers who have everyone in the line up, save Pronger, with that squad, LMFAO. I'll go to the Flyers board and earn one HELL of an infraction.

And the Pens on Sunday? With Malkin and Letang back in the lineup??? HAHAHAHA.

Imagine if Elias was suspended?

Zajac's Bowl Cut
02-03-2012, 10:24
I think I'd legit be happy with 1 point total out of these 2 games

Devilsfanatic
02-03-2012, 10:28
I'd be legit happy with 0 but losses by only a goal each.

Zajac's Bowl Cut
02-03-2012, 10:51
Tom Gulitti @TGfireandice
Johan Hedberg to start in net for Devils Saturday in Philadelphia.

Devilsfanatic
02-03-2012, 11:08
Tom Gulitti @TGfireandice
Johan Hedberg to start in net for Devils Saturday in Philadelphia.

Just what I wanted.

Dr. Doom
02-03-2012, 11:59
Tom Gulitti @TGfireandice
DeBoer said Elias is "really another coach in the room ...I always pull something out of my conversations with him I can use with the team"

Devilsfanatic
02-03-2012, 12:02
Elias, future coach in NJ.

Zajac's Bowl Cut
02-03-2012, 12:03
Head coach- Elias. assistants- Brylin, Stevens

Clarkson Falls Down
02-03-2012, 12:27
Doesn't surprise me about Elias. The guy's a maestro

Dr. Doom
02-03-2012, 15:15
Tom Gulitti @TGfireandice
Devils now have announced move to place Henrique on injured reserve.

:facepalm:

Devilsfanatic
02-03-2012, 15:25
It's retroactive. Allows them to call up a player tomorrow and send him back after the game. Henrique is eligible to come off on Sunday.

Dr. Doom
02-03-2012, 15:26
It's retroactive. Allows them to call up a player tomorrow and send him back after the game. Henrique is eligible to come off on Sunday.
I know, I just don't like the sound of it.

Devilsfanatic
02-03-2012, 15:28
Well, it's either that or go Boulton-Mills-Janssen as our fourth line.

Dr. Doom
02-03-2012, 15:30
Well, it's either that or go Boulton-Mills-Janssen as our fourth line.
*crosses fingers* teddy *crosses fingers*

Devilsfanatic
02-03-2012, 15:32
It'll be Zalewski :laugh:

Dr. Doom
02-03-2012, 15:34
It'll be Zalewski :laugh:
http://i41.tinypic.com/23haycl.gif

Clarkson Falls Down
02-03-2012, 15:41
Or even worse, Sestito...

Dr. Doom
02-03-2012, 15:43
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-diR8S6xI1_4/Tj6TDN1SExI/AAAAAAAAAd0/xzlcm70YNXc/s1600/Soda_cup_barfs.gif

vonbonds
02-03-2012, 16:50
I love watching Devils-Flyers games so I can watch them on my TV in HD. This is complete crap though...debating if I even want to watch tomorrow night or not. Devils better call up Urbom or Gelinas...someone that makes it interesting to watch.

Tao Jones
02-03-2012, 16:51
Tom Gulitti

Albany Devils going with 13 forwards and only 5 D vs. Connecticut tonight. D Peter Harrold is not in lineup.