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onefatsurfer
12-23-2011, 05:55
New Jersey Devils

vs

Washington Capitals

at Prudential Center

Lineups
Zach Parise-Adam Henrique-Ilya Kovalchuk
Petr Sykora-Patrik Elias-Dainius Zubrus
Mattias Tedenby-Travis Zajac-David Clarkson
Eric Boulton-Ryan Carter-Cam Janssen

Bryce Salvador-Kurtis Foster
Mark Fayne-Matt Taormina
Anton Volchenkov-Alexander Urbom

Martin Brodeur
Johan Hedberg

vs

Ovechkin Laich's Carlson's Semin on his Backstrom

Nerverth

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4087/5066029253_cb912be58a.jpg

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Go Devils.

TheUnseenHand
12-23-2011, 06:00
That D is; Yikes...

I'll be at this one. Hopefully the offense scores the 6+ goals that will probably be necessary in this one. LGD!

onefatsurfer
12-23-2011, 06:43
This is a pretty must-win game for their confidence, IMO. Win and they could be sitting in 6th. Lose, they're in 10th.

Dr. Doom
12-23-2011, 07:22
Just win.

Dr. Doom
12-23-2011, 11:06
I just bought tickets for the game tonight

Getzo5
12-23-2011, 12:28
http://hfboards.com/showpost.php?p=41393295&postcount=91

I just fell off a chair. :laugh:

EDIT: Deleted.

Fruit Demers: I have a theory that Adam Larsson is gay.

Has anybody seen him with a girl?

Clarkson Falls Down
12-23-2011, 15:24
LOL. Too funny. Has anyone seen any Devils players with a girl?

Anton Volchenkov
12-23-2011, 15:59
I always thought Patty was a little fruity. :sarcasm:

Tao Jones
12-23-2011, 16:07
All I want for Christmas is a W.

Clarkson Falls Down
12-23-2011, 16:13
Damn Patty should have shot that. Good start though.

Clarkson Falls Down
12-23-2011, 16:29
Another good kill.

VaxjoDevil
12-23-2011, 16:41
Missed the first, how has it looked?

Tao Jones
12-23-2011, 16:51
Henrique 2 SOG, 1 hit
Foster 2 SOG
Sestito 2 hits
Janssen 1 SOG, 1 hit, 1 blocked shot, 2:00
Carter 1 SOG, 1 hit

Salvador 9:07, 1 blocked shot
Parise 7:57, 1 SOG
Fayne 7:49, 1 blocked shot
Kovalchuk 7:15, 1 SOG

Clarkson Falls Down
12-23-2011, 16:56
They looked pretty good.

VaxjoDevil
12-23-2011, 16:57
How can Zubrus miss that. What a pass by Elias, hard one looking so easy when he makes it.

Clarkson Falls Down
12-23-2011, 16:59
They've had lots of chances so far. Still no puck luck. Seems that way at home.

VaxjoDevil
12-23-2011, 17:01
Yes!

Clarkson Falls Down
12-23-2011, 17:02
Dumb, dumb penalty by Sestito.

Tao Jones
12-23-2011, 17:03
Kovalchuk ties Bob Carpenter and Murray Oliver for career points and ties Rick Tocchet, Vincent Damphousse, Ray Ferraro, and Bill Guerin for career power play goals.

Clarkson Falls Down
12-23-2011, 17:07
LOL, nice job Chico trying to cover up that you forgot that this was Urbom's second goal.

VaxjoDevil
12-23-2011, 17:09
LOL, nice job Chico trying to cover up that you forgot that this was Urbom's second goal.

A virtuoso save indeed.

Clarkson Falls Down
12-23-2011, 17:10
**** Erskine. Hear the fucking whistle.

Clarkson Falls Down
12-23-2011, 17:13
Good to see he's alright.

Clarkson Falls Down
12-23-2011, 17:21
Fayne's been great. Impressive work on Ovechkin.

onefatsurfer
12-23-2011, 17:25
Devils are fucking incredible tonight.

VaxjoDevil
12-23-2011, 17:27
Chico is making a good point here.

onefatsurfer
12-23-2011, 17:33
I'm glad they didn't get rattled at the end there when the caps picked up the pace

Lord Ned Stark
12-23-2011, 17:40
This ***** just icked over dr. Dooms beer after I said. Beer.

Clarkson Falls Down
12-23-2011, 17:55
they better pick it up. Been skating in mud since the end of the 2nd.

VaxjoDevil
12-23-2011, 18:06
They need to keep this lead at two. No more drama damn it.

Clarkson Falls Down
12-23-2011, 18:07
They need to keep this lead at two. No more drama damn it.

I would have liked them to capitalize on that PP, but as long as they didn't give up a shorty lol.

VaxjoDevil
12-23-2011, 18:12
Of **** this, this is weak. Can't hold a three goal lead, again.

doc e
12-23-2011, 18:13
Shitty luck, then it was so easy for Chimera to walk in front and stuff it.

Though Marty could've/should've had that one me thinks.

Clarkson Falls Down
12-23-2011, 18:13
Of course...

Never an easy 3rd.

VaxjoDevil
12-23-2011, 18:15
The win with three or more is still valid, lol.

VaxjoDevil
12-23-2011, 18:16
Good save.

doc e
12-23-2011, 18:21
Motherfucking fuckity fuckstick.

Clarkson Falls Down
12-23-2011, 18:21
Just awful. I'm going to stop watching 3rd periods. What a joke.

VaxjoDevil
12-23-2011, 18:21
Man this is depressive. Again can't hold a lead in third.

VaxjoDevil
12-23-2011, 18:23
If we give Washington two points here it's really not a good thing. We really could have needed those two points while Washington gets zero. Sigh.

devilzrule27
12-23-2011, 18:24
This went bad. Glad I'm unable to watch this poo.

Clarkson Falls Down
12-23-2011, 18:25
But we'll win in a shootout. That's exactly what we need. To give a team that we're battling in the standings with a point and not even a regulation/OT win to show for it. That'll be good for the tiebreaker.

VaxjoDevil
12-23-2011, 18:27
But we'll win in a shootout. That's exactly what we need. To give a team that we're battling in the standings with a point and not even a regulation/OT win to show for it. That'll be good for the tiebreaker.

Exactly. Except if we lose in OT and then we have given away two points that should have been locked in.

VaxjoDevil
12-23-2011, 18:29
Supernice play there though.

Clarkson Falls Down
12-23-2011, 18:31
Exactly. Except if we lose in OT and then we have given away two points that should have been locked in.

even if we get the 2 it's a cheap 2. if they would have just played a good third they would have had 0 and the Devils would have had a big regulation win. Even if the Devils win they gave them a point and didn't get a much needed regulation win.

It'll seem like a half win to be honest.

VaxjoDevil
12-23-2011, 18:34
Even if they win this in SO it'll leave a sour taste.

VaxjoDevil
12-23-2011, 18:37
Kovy has been silly good in SOs.

Clarkson Falls Down
12-23-2011, 18:38
yay?

VaxjoDevil
12-23-2011, 18:38
Lol, Marty has fooled them with the fake glove so many times and they still go for it.

Still not happy with this.

SLNP
12-23-2011, 18:39
bittersweet.

more bitter.

VaxjoDevil
12-23-2011, 18:40
Oh great, stream knocked out right before the stars were awarded.

doc e
12-23-2011, 18:43
Very meh about this win.

We're going to fucking HATE March when it rolls around.

jkrdevil
12-23-2011, 18:43
Missed most of the game but kept track and saw them tie-it. I wanted strangle Chico when he said their 3rd period pay was improving after the Caps already came back to tie the game. It is a joke at this point.

I wish we could employ two coaches. Deboer for periods 1 and 2 and then bring in Lemaire for the 3rd.

VaxjoDevil
12-23-2011, 18:54
We have won 7 of last 9. Still in good shape.

vonbonds
12-23-2011, 18:55
Missed most of the game but kept track and saw them tie-it. I wanted strangle Chico when he said their 3rd period pay was improving after the Caps already came back to tie the game. It is a joke at this point.

I wish we could employ two coaches. Deboer for periods 1 and 2 and then bring in Lemaire for the 3rd.

It is the players unfortunately. They can't kick it up a notch when opposing teams go for broke in the 3rd to tie it up. The last 10 minutes of regulation felt like the Devils didn't have much puck possession either..another common theme with other blown leads in the past.

vonbonds
12-23-2011, 18:56
We have won 7 of last 9. Still in good shape.

I just never feel good with these OT wins. Probably something I need to get over.

VaxjoDevil
12-23-2011, 19:02
I have started to accept Rangers winning like one slowly accepts an ex with another boyfriend. I got used to it and don't really care anymore.

Lord Ned Stark
12-23-2011, 19:05
It was an exciting but disappointing game. Should of had that wrapped

VaxjoDevil
12-23-2011, 19:06
Looking at the standings and game played, we are kind of a 5th place team. Pretty incredible.

SLNP
12-23-2011, 19:14
i'm actually shocked we're as high as we are. shows the mediocracy of the east i guess.

Clarkson Falls Down
12-23-2011, 19:19
LOL I must have been kidding myself thinking reading HF's GDT wouldn't be a big deal

What do ya know? Boom first post I read, something along the lines of "we stopped playing for 15min, but got 2 points, so complain" :facepalm:.....I guess more power to one if they are satisfied with winning a game where we blew a 3 goal lead? :dunno:

Sure it's sweet to win 5 of 6 but to have blown yet another lead, our second 3 goal one of the season, that's clearly not good......yea we've got a few guys out but to have been playing as good as we were all game and then just taking steps back at the end of the game is becoming a scary habit

They speak too much in absolutes there. Foster makes a bad pass so this makes him a bad passer. They think 2 points is 2 points no matter what. This felt like half a win to be honest. Coming back to win in a shoot out? No problem with that. Blowing a 3 goal lead and winning in a shoot out? No bueno.

Lord Ned Stark
12-23-2011, 19:23
Holding 3 goal leads should not be a problem. I saw it coming though

JimEIV
12-23-2011, 19:28
Quick note : Sloppy Joe's in Key West has the NHL package in HD. Also blowing a 3 goal lead in the 3rd if fucking disgusting.

doc e
12-23-2011, 20:19
*wrong thread*

SLNP
12-23-2011, 21:18
Looking at some of the teams in/out of the top 8, there are a few suprises (Sabres/Caps out and Sens/Leafs in)

Regarding where we are though, I can't say I'm overly suprised......given the guys we've been with out I can see where you are coming from, but I always felt that this team would be around the fringe

Of course it's still early and anything can change


i think it's really more the fact that Henrique is as good as he's been. the chemistry he has with parise and kovalchuk is surprising and that top line is basically what kept us above water until Zajac got back.

Lord Ned Stark
12-23-2011, 21:33
had an awesome time at the game tonight.. dr. doom got the number of the girl who was "friends" with the girl who kicked his beer over. crazyness at the game but at least they won.

Dr. Doom
12-24-2011, 07:10
had an awesome time at the game tonight.. dr. doom got the number of the girl who was "friends" with the girl who kicked his beer over. crazyness at the game but at least they won.
http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lwoa2hJ7ru1qbrvn3o1_500.gif

guyincognito
12-24-2011, 14:27
the coverage in the third was atrocious. 3 goals scored about a combined 6 feet from the net. I dunno if going with 5 D was a smart move. Yeah Urbom kinda stinks defensively right now, but how does that make him different than virtually everyone else out there. :laugh:

basically when this team takes the game to you, they're awesome, when they back off, they're awful. they also seem to need 4 goals to win a game in regulation, which has to change.

Clarkson Falls Down
12-24-2011, 18:57
the coverage in the third was atrocious. 3 goals scored about a combined 6 feet from the net. I dunno if going with 5 D was a smart move. Yeah Urbom kinda stinks defensively right now, but how does that make him different than virtually everyone else out there. :laugh:

basically when this team takes the game to you, they're awesome, when they back off, they're awful. they also seem to need 4 goals to win a game in regulation, which has to change.

What frustrates me too is that their shift after they gave up the 3rd goal was a good one. Which leads me to believe that they sit back too much with a lead. They just need to play like they do all the time.

jkrdevil
12-24-2011, 19:23
What frustrates me too is that their shift after they gave up the 3rd goal was a good one. Which leads me to believe that they sit back too much with a lead. They just need to play like they do all the time.

I've joked many of times that hopefully they get the third period collapse out of the way early in the period so they have time to get back.

It is a case of that they are bad positionally defensively and in the third with a lead the offensive zone play naturally gets more conservative (and the other team more aggressive). Once the other team ties it, they don't tend to get worse. And given their OT record it isn't a case of being tired or the doors would get blown off during the 4-on-4.

Clarkson Falls Down
12-24-2011, 20:39
I've joked many of times that hopefully they get the third period collapse out of the way early in the period so they have time to get back.

It is a case of that they are bad positionally defensively and in the third with a lead the offensive zone play naturally gets more conservative (and the other team more aggressive). Once the other team ties it, they don't tend to get worse. And given their OT record it isn't a case of being tired or the doors would get blown off during the 4-on-4.

Yeah the tired argument is BS in this case. Although, I respect and even agree (in some cases, Larsson) the opinion of people who think that some of our players are playing too much. But I just think that it's a case, like you said of the Devils getting out of their element and going into a more passive play and the other team being a little more desperate.

SLNP
12-25-2011, 07:43
that and clarkson has been a revelation.

Classic Devil
12-25-2011, 15:47
Yeah the tired argument is BS in this case. Although, I respect and even agree (in some cases, Larsson) the opinion of people who think that some of our players are playing too much. But I just think that it's a case, like you said of the Devils getting out of their element and going into a more passive play and the other team being a little more desperate.

I don't think they're playing too many minutes. But I do think the defensemen aren't good enough to be playing the kind of high-intensity minutes DeBoer's style demands. When the other team turns up the heat to try to get the goals back, they don't have the engines needed to match and they fall behind. Then, once they're pinned in our end, they fold under the pressure.

Just one top defenseman would be such a godsend.

jkrdevil
12-25-2011, 16:59
I don't think they're playing too many minutes. But I do think the defensemen aren't good enough to be playing the kind of high-intensity minutes DeBoer's style demands. When the other team turns up the heat to try to get the goals back, they don't have the engines needed to match and they fall behind. Then, once they're pinned in our end, they fold under the pressure.

Just one top defenseman would be such a godsend.

So what do you want to give up for Suter?

Clarkson Falls Down
12-25-2011, 18:51
I don't think they're playing too many minutes. But I do think the defensemen aren't good enough to be playing the kind of high-intensity minutes DeBoer's style demands. When the other team turns up the heat to try to get the goals back, they don't have the engines needed to match and they fall behind. Then, once they're pinned in our end, they fold under the pressure.

Just one top defenseman would be such a godsend.

Yeah, that's definitely a huge source of the problem. The D just isn't good enough to withstand such pressure. That's why they gotta stay aggressive no matter the score.

jkrdevil
12-25-2011, 18:57
Yeah, that's definitely a huge source of the problem. The D just isn't good enough to withstand such pressure. That's why they gotta stay aggressive no matter the score.

The probably is when you are up you are going to naturally play a bit to "protect the lead." That means backing off some instances in the offensive zone to make sure numbers are back defensively. It is human nature to play that way late added to the fact they have all been trained to play like that, especially the guys who have been here.

The coaching staff might have to put money on the board for scoring the 4th or 5th goal for them. Though I don't think that is allowed under the CBA.

Clarkson Falls Down
12-25-2011, 19:03
The probably is when you are up you are going to naturally play a bit to "protect the lead." That means backing off some instances in the offensive zone to make sure numbers are back defensively. It is human nature to play that way late added to the fact they have all been trained to play like that, especially the guys who have been here.

The coaching staff might have to put money on the board for scoring the 4th or 5th goal for them. Though I don't think that is allowed under the CBA.

I totally understand that sentiment and don't doubt that's played a part in it. But don't you think after it's happened like 4, 5 times already that they'd slightly alter the way they play?

guyincognito
12-26-2011, 16:39
That could be 5