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JimEIV
03-25-2012, 18:07
Good thing I have alcohol.

VaxjoDevil
03-25-2012, 18:07
Im not sure but Pens announcers want him suspended...

Yeah, what a fucking joke. Guy lost an edge, Carter didn't touch him.

Dr. Doom
03-25-2012, 18:07
LOL!!!! The pens announcers are saying that is suspendible.
http://myhumorspot.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/never-go-full-retard.jpg

onefatsurfer
03-25-2012, 18:07
why was there a penalty?

guyincognito
03-25-2012, 18:07
Im not sure but Pens announcers want him suspended...

Well, it's the third period, they're probably seeing 4 Carters out there by now. Letang lost an edge in a really bad spot and is lucky he didn't Rolston his ankle

Devilsfanatic
03-25-2012, 18:08
Carter did jab at his leg. It happened, I saw it.

devilzrule27
03-25-2012, 18:08
why was there a penalty?

cause at full speed a ref will just assume a stick got his feet.

DevilsNJ4
03-25-2012, 18:08
Thats it Greene!

onefatsurfer
03-25-2012, 18:08
omg what are they saying about that hit on crosby?

guyincognito
03-25-2012, 18:08
well, Andy Greene just took a year off Crosby's career

Getzo5
03-25-2012, 18:09
Zidlicky lets that **** happen to him twice...That **** can`t be defended unless you play the body and don`t miss or slash him so hard he won`t stand up.

VaxjoDevil
03-25-2012, 18:09
Carter did jab at his leg. It happened, I saw it.

Sarcastic? He fell all by himself, man.

vonbonds
03-25-2012, 18:09
Good thing I have alcohol.

I am half lit...great plan!

guyincognito
03-25-2012, 18:10
That **** can`t be defended unless you play the body and don`t miss or slash him so hard he won`t stand up.

Put your foot out. lol. It can't be defended cleanly.

devilzrule27
03-25-2012, 18:11
Put your foot out. lol. It can't be defended cleanly.

would be a good penalty to take there.

Devilsfanatic
03-25-2012, 18:11
Sarcastic? He fell all by himself, man.

Stick was in the area, it was an edge, but the stick did touch him as well, so they called it just for precedent. I'm OK with it.

Getzo5
03-25-2012, 18:12
Put your foot out. lol. It can't be defended cleanly.Well, that`s what I meant, obviously. :laugh:

And even if you do that... easier said than done in full speed. lol


would be a good penalty to take there....^^

Lord Ned Stark
03-25-2012, 18:12
just end crosbys career already

Devilsfanatic
03-25-2012, 18:13
No, Crosby rocks.

VaxjoDevil
03-25-2012, 18:13
Boston leading 2-0.

guyincognito
03-25-2012, 18:13
Well, that`s what I meant, obviously. :laugh:

And even if you do that... easier said than done in full speed. lol

If I did it, I'd fall and blow out my groin

JimEIV
03-25-2012, 18:14
Last chance in the game right here.

vonbonds
03-25-2012, 18:14
just end crosbys career already

You know they will just pick #1 next year if that happened to get the next chosen one :laugh:

Lord Ned Stark
03-25-2012, 18:15
aw **** thanks a lot marty and hiller.. gonna lose to fuckin tedenby21 of all people in the playoffs now.. **** this

Devilsfanatic
03-25-2012, 18:15
Needless power play.

I'd like the Pens to win and catch NY.

guyincognito
03-25-2012, 18:15
time to dive like crazy and try to get two up

devilzrule27
03-25-2012, 18:16
Malkin and Crosby are two of the most retarded looking star hockey players I've ever seen.

Devilsfanatic
03-25-2012, 18:16
Why would anyone draft Marty in a pool?

JimEIV
03-25-2012, 18:16
Needless power play.

I'd like the Pens to win and catch NY.

Shut up

Getzo5
03-25-2012, 18:17
Needless power play.

I'd like the Pens to win and catch NY.I don`t. WSH or BUF will give them hard time. I want the standings to remain as they are. Perfect scenario.

onefatsurfer
03-25-2012, 18:17
lol refs

guyincognito
03-25-2012, 18:17
Why would anyone draft Marty in a pool?

The year I did, was when he blew out his elbow. His replacement, Andrew Raycroft. :laugh:

Thank god I found Steve Mason before anyone else did.

Lord Ned Stark
03-25-2012, 18:18
df is the new muttley

Getzo5
03-25-2012, 18:18
Malkin and Crosby are two of the most retarded looking star hockey players I've ever seen.QFT

Sad but true.

Dr. Doom
03-25-2012, 18:18
aw **** thanks a lot marty and hiller.. gonna lose to fuckin tedenby21 of all people in the playoffs now.. **** this
nah, you're still going to win

guyincognito
03-25-2012, 18:19
well, this isn't happening

devilzrule27
03-25-2012, 18:19
lol greene

Devilsfanatic
03-25-2012, 18:19
The year I did, was when he blew out his elbow. His replacement, Andrew Raycroft. :laugh:

Thank god I found Steve Mason before anyone else did.

I haven't in years, I haven't even wanted to. I mean, he's 40.

guyincognito
03-25-2012, 18:20
I haven't in years, I haven't even wanted to. I mean, he's 40.

I had first pick and it was a snake draft, I would have ended up with a **** goalie if I didn't. And it was coming off the first sutter season where he put that team in the playoffs by himself.

devilzrule27
03-25-2012, 18:20
you're 40

Devilsfanatic
03-25-2012, 18:21
Lets give the two best players in the world all the opportunities :laugh:

JimEIV
03-25-2012, 18:21
OK, this is over now. Time to finish the rest of my booze. I'm going to the bullshit thread now.

Devilsfanatic
03-25-2012, 18:22
I had first pick and it was a snake draft, I would have ended up with a **** goalie if I didn't. And it was coming off the first sutter season where he put that team in the playoffs by himself.

Oh yeah, even up to three seasons ago, why not? Last year I didn't bother, this year same deal. I find Price and Thomas are always left open, so I take one of them at all times. I usually take a goalie high in rotisserie because a shutout is like five points mostly.

Lord Ned Stark
03-25-2012, 18:22
crosby with the reacharound

devilzrule27
03-25-2012, 18:22
well that was our chance to make this a game.

Clarkson Falls Down
03-25-2012, 18:22
He misses the net and just stands there and sulks instead of chasing the puck behind the net. Wow.

Getzo5
03-25-2012, 18:23
How many facepalms should I use?

Devilsfanatic
03-25-2012, 18:23
Hahaha, miss, openly sulk and watch the team go the other way instead of being a dog on that puck and going for it.

This guy, he's so tantalizing yet so fucking frustrating. **** you, Kovalchuk.

devilzrule27
03-25-2012, 18:23
He misses the net and just stands there and sulks instead of chasing the puck behind the net. Wow.

Thats what this whole team does. They are all so emotionally fragile. They are like a bunch of teenage girls.

Dr. Doom
03-25-2012, 18:24
He misses the net and just stands there and sulks instead of chasing the puck behind the net. Wow.
so much wrong with everything that happened

Lord Ned Stark
03-25-2012, 18:24
two minutes until we pull the goalie and crosby has his 5th

Getzo5
03-25-2012, 18:24
He misses the net and just stands there and sulks instead of chasing the puck behind the net. Wow.Meh. It was just a split second. He wouldn`t catch the D anyway. Some effort instead of "le sigh" would be nice, but whatevs.

I remember him doing worse before though.

Devilsfanatic
03-25-2012, 18:25
This team played yesterday, had to travel home and is playing five D. Good work, Devils. Way to let them just have one.

Devilsfanatic
03-25-2012, 18:25
Thats what this whole team does. They are all so emotionally fragile. They are like a bunch of teenage girls.

They're the HF of hockey teams.

Clarkson Falls Down
03-25-2012, 18:25
Meh. It was just a split second. He wouldn`t catch the D anyway. Some effort instead of "le sigh" would be nice, but whatevs.

I remember him doing worse before though.

There was still a play going on. Go chase the puck around the net and try to continue the pressure.

Devilsfanatic
03-25-2012, 18:26
There was still a play going on. Go chase the puck around the net and try to continue the pressure.

Exactly. Such a knob job.

Getzo5
03-25-2012, 18:26
There was still a play going on. Go chase the puck around the net and try to continue the pressure.Eh, I don`t think like retracting my statement, dunno.

Lord Ned Stark
03-25-2012, 18:27
knob job lol

devilzrule27
03-25-2012, 18:27
This team played yesterday, had to travel home and is playing five D. Good work, Devils. Way to let them just have one.

I don't know how many times this point has to be proven moot when involving the devils until people stop bringing it up. It makes a negligible difference.

Dr. Doom
03-25-2012, 18:27
I think we might be one of the worst teams in the league in terms of scoring goals off rebounds.

guyincognito
03-25-2012, 18:28
This team played yesterday, had to travel home and is playing five D. Good work, Devils. Way to let them just have one.

Yeah, they haven't really pushed them like they did Vancouver in a similiar spot. But that goal is just a total deflator, too.

Devilsfanatic
03-25-2012, 18:28
Ilya Kovalsulk.

guyincognito
03-25-2012, 18:28
I don't know how many times this point has to be proven moot when involving the devils until people stop bringing it up. It makes a negligible difference.

They've owned the third period alot in those games. It's what happens before that kills them. :laugh:

devilzrule27
03-25-2012, 18:29
empty nets always work well for us

Devilsfanatic
03-25-2012, 18:29
Hahahaha, watching him sulk on the replay is even more epic. Fucking idiot.

vonbonds
03-25-2012, 18:29
What exactly were you guys expecting tonight? I think it was GIC who called me out a few games ago. This is who the Devils are, expecting anything else at this point is a waste of time.

Getzo5
03-25-2012, 18:29
Now you`re pushing it too far.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTSnhYh-hic&feature=related

Zajac has been exceptional. Incredible. Amazing.

guyincognito
03-25-2012, 18:29
Well, they gotten tighten up alot next time out or it's going to happen again.

Devilsfanatic
03-25-2012, 18:30
What exactly were you guys expecting tonight? I think it was GIC who called me out a few games ago. This is who the Devils are, expecting anything else at this point is a waste of time.

I was expecting a loss, doesn't mean I have to enjoy it.

Lord Ned Stark
03-25-2012, 18:30
lmfao

VaxjoDevil
03-25-2012, 18:30
I actually think Malkin's parents are quite adorable.

guyincognito
03-25-2012, 18:31
What exactly were you guys expecting tonight? I think it was GIC who called me out a few games ago. This is who the Devils are, expecting anything else at this point is a waste of time.

Yeah, but I'm starting to get annoyed now. At least back then they were keeping scores down. This is a game where they should have been in it at the end. Wasn't like last time they played.

devilzrule27
03-25-2012, 18:31
moving on to he next game

Devilsfanatic
03-25-2012, 18:31
Back to the Game of Thrones. THE PENGUINS, ARE WHO WE THOUGHT THEY WERE!

Dr. Doom
03-25-2012, 18:32
Our defense needs to be a lot better.

jkrdevil
03-25-2012, 18:32
A mess defensively tonight. Do like forwarded combos though

VaxjoDevil
03-25-2012, 18:32
Is that golf dude on HF complaining about pulling the goalie, because it makes the loss look worse? Geez.

DevilsNJ4
03-25-2012, 18:33
ahaha funniest **** I've ever seen. Love you Marty.

Darius Dangleaitis
03-25-2012, 18:34
What did Marty do? I switched to Seinfeld.

vonbonds
03-25-2012, 18:34
Yeah, but I'm starting to get annoyed now. At least back then they were keeping scores down. This is a game where they should have been in it at the end. Wasn't like last time they played.

The Devils are one of the slowest teams in the league that is brutal at face offs and our defense usually crumbles under a forecheck. Just wait till the playoffs...:laugh:

Clarkson Falls Down
03-25-2012, 18:34
What exactly were you guys expecting tonight? I think it was GIC who called me out a few games ago. This is who the Devils are, expecting anything else at this point is a waste of time.

My expectations are a lot greater than they were at the start of the year because the roster has gotten a lot better.

Very frustrating to see the Devils going through yet another late season slump. For once I hope that they go in on a roll.

DevilsNJ4
03-25-2012, 18:35
What did Marty do? I switched to Seinfeld.

Intentionally played the puck in the forbidden zone for a penalty with 2 seconds left.

guyincognito
03-25-2012, 18:35
Someone must have done something, because the game ended on a 5 on 3

Zajac's Bowl Cut
03-25-2012, 18:35
didn't think it was THAT bad. they are a better team than us, I don't think thats any surprise

we had plenty of chances. I would like to tighten up the D for sure, but yea

Vinnie
03-25-2012, 18:35
womp womp

Dr. Doom
03-25-2012, 18:35
One positive over the last couple of games is that they have been throwing more shots on net. It hasn't really been turning into wins but it is the right idea.

Lord Ned Stark
03-25-2012, 18:36
jesus titty fucking christ

Getzo5
03-25-2012, 18:37
I actually think Malkin's parents are quite adorable.Malkin looks like his mother, just worse. Father`s fault. :sarcasm:

VaxjoDevil
03-25-2012, 18:38
My feeling is that Pens scored when they needed to, otherwise they were not really going full speed. If we seemed not that far below them it's not true to reality.

vonbonds
03-25-2012, 18:39
My expectations are a lot greater than they were at the start of the year because the roster has gotten a lot better.

Very frustrating to see the Devils going through yet another late season slump. For once I hope that they go in on a roll.

The Devils M.O. has been to rack up points early and glide/limp into the playoffs as the games get a lot tougher at the end of the season. Our D is a train wreck...always has been post lockout and it will be a few years I guess at this rate till it is anything else.

Clarkson Falls Down
03-25-2012, 19:02
Now HF is in a hysteria about missing the playoffs. They are basically 2.5 games up with 6 to play. Their magic number is 7 points gained or lost by Buffalo.

People need to relax with that stuff. I'm just concerned with how they're playing going into the playoffs.

Devilsfanatic
03-25-2012, 19:04
HF is in a hysteria about anything and everything.

VaxjoDevil
03-25-2012, 19:04
They need to stay healthy, get their D **** together and stay out of 7th.

vonbonds
03-25-2012, 19:04
Now HF is in a hysteria about missing the playoffs. They are basically 2.5 games up with 6 to play. Their magic number is 7 points gained or lost by Buffalo.

People need to relax with that stuff. I'm just concerned with how they're playing going into the playoffs.

This is one of the reasons I don't even bother logging in over there. What is the point when every game is life and death with them.

Devilsfanatic
03-25-2012, 19:08
http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/showpost.php?p=46723927&postcount=876

:laugh:

He's up to his usual stuff.

Getzo5
03-25-2012, 19:09
I love this place, I truly do.

As for those saying Larsson should not play in the POs...well, that`s a tough call. PO experience is valuable, but is it when you get burned 8 times out of 10?

He`s not ready. He would had he not get injured mid-season. Just lower his minutes, find the right partner and hope for the best.

Can`t say how happy I`m for Zajac, great comeback.

jkrdevil
03-25-2012, 19:11
Now HF is in a hysteria about missing the playoffs. They are basically 2.5 games up with 6 to play. Their magic number is 7 points gained or lost by Buffalo.

People need to relax with that stuff. I'm just concerned with how they're playing going into the playoffs.

Washington and Buffalo play each other next I believe. So that brings the magic number in points at least down to six if that game goes to OT, five it is a regulation game

Devilsfanatic
03-25-2012, 19:11
If Tallinder was healthy, Larsson would sit. It does not help that Volchie missed today's game either. The 2nd goal probably doesn't happen with Volch on the ice.

jkrdevil
03-25-2012, 19:13
I love this place, I truly do.

As for those saying Larsson should not play in the POs...well, that`s a tough call. PO experience is valuable, but is it when you get burned 8 times out of 10?

He`s not ready. He would had he not get injured mid-season. Just lower his minutes, find the right partner and hope for the best.

Can`t say how happy I`m for Zajac, great comeback.

Who going to play in place of Larsson. Tao? Not happening. Tallinder isn't coming back at this point

Zajac's Bowl Cut
03-25-2012, 19:14
I really really have begun to dislike apice

Devilsfanatic
03-25-2012, 19:15
I really really have begun to dislike apice

Jim's schtick was Kovy, Muttley has Parise, BG has DeBoer, and this guy has Marty.

They're all trying to emulate Jimbodini.

VaxjoDevil
03-25-2012, 19:16
Some of us were saying they wore down Larsson in the beginning by having him logging monster minutes. Of course we got bashed by almighty *** Trottier, but I listened to Holiks podcast the other day, where he talked about the huge difference in playing a season of 55 games in Europe to the first full NHL season. He said the first season is extremely tough that way.

Getzo5
03-25-2012, 19:17
Who going to play in place of Larsson. Tao? Not happening. Tallinder isn't coming back at this pointThat too.

Harrold :sarcasm: Seriously though, he didn`t look bad... at all.


I really really have begun to dislike apiceWait... did you like him to begin with? haha

Clarkson Falls Down
03-25-2012, 19:18
I really really have begun to dislike apice

Begun? Soooo October lol.

Getzo5
03-25-2012, 19:20
Some of us were saying they wore down Larsson in the beginning by having him logging monster minutes. Of course we got bashed by almighty *** Trottier, but I listened to Holiks podcast the other day, where he talked about the huge difference in playing a season of 55 games in Europe to the first full NHL season. He said the first season is extremely tough that way.I was the only one who had to deal with that self-important imbecile.

Even if he didn`t get injured, he`d ran out of gas around the 60th game mark.

He`s not used to this kind of a workload yet. 1+ offseason will fix that though.

Devilsfanatic
03-25-2012, 19:21
Begun? Soooo October lol.

Yeah, he was OK for a while, but his schtick, hoo boy. Now there's a whole bunch of the start Hedberg crowd. It's amazing. That place has gone to hell in a hand basket. It's starting to look like devilsrule.com on its last legs.

Clarkson Falls Down
03-25-2012, 19:22
I love this place, I truly do.

As for those saying Larsson should not play in the POs...well, that`s a tough call. PO experience is valuable, but is it when you get burned 8 times out of 10?

He`s not ready. He would had he not get injured mid-season. Just lower his minutes, find the right partner and hope for the best.

Can`t say how happy I`m for Zajac, great comeback.

If Tallinder was healthy, I'd definitely feel he should sit. But not for Taormina.

Zajac's Bowl Cut
03-25-2012, 19:24
BUT THE TEAM PLAYS BETTER FOR MOOSE, MAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN

xx

vonbonds
03-25-2012, 19:24
If Tallinder was healthy, I'd definitely feel he should sit. But not for Taormina.

Larsson looks bad lately. Clearly the season has been a grind for him. We aren't winning the cup and in my opinion his development is paramount for this season to be a success. We desperately need him to be a force on the blue line and taking his lumps is part of the process.

VaxjoDevil
03-25-2012, 19:24
I assume Tallinder is gone, even for POs?

Devilsfanatic
03-25-2012, 19:24
If Tallinder was healthy, I'd definitely feel he should sit. But not for Taormina.

Agree. He should sit when Tallinder comes back, which he never will.

jkrdevil
03-25-2012, 19:24
Yeah, he was OK for a while, but his schtick, hoo boy. Now there's a whole bunch of the start Hedberg crowd. It's amazing. That place has gone to hell in a hand basket. It's starting to look like devilsrule.com on its last legs.

Well every thread isn't turning into a political debate yet, though BG tries

Zajac's Bowl Cut
03-25-2012, 19:24
let Larsson play in the playoffs

its not like we are winning the cup this year

get the kid some experience

Devilsfanatic
03-25-2012, 19:25
Well every thread isn't turning into a political debate yet, though BG tries

It will go soon enough, don't worry.

Getzo5
03-25-2012, 19:27
Even a bad advertisment is an advertisment, eh?

Yeah, I agree.

Devilsfanatic
03-25-2012, 19:28
They weren't that bad, DeBoer was right, it was individual mistakes and it's what it came out to. Pittsburgh is a well-well oiled machine.

onefatsurfer
03-25-2012, 19:38
devils lose and now i'm out of the fantasy hockey playoffs. :(

Devilsfanatic
03-25-2012, 19:40
I lost this week and was eliminated because of Malkin and Neal. My goaltending was amazing but my offense just wasn't there. I think I had one or two goals all week.

Lord Ned Stark
03-25-2012, 19:48
Jim's schtick was Kovy, Muttley has Parise, BG has DeBoer, and this guy has Marty.

They're all trying to emulate Jimbodini.

mines zidlicky and andy greene

Devilsfanatic
03-25-2012, 19:49
You don't have an account.

Lord Ned Stark
03-25-2012, 19:55
you got me

Devilsfanatic
03-25-2012, 19:57
;)

What it do, nephew!

Dr. Doom
03-25-2012, 20:27
I'm not worried about missing the playoffs. What I'm starting to get worried about is going into the playoffs cold and playing poorly.

Darius Dangleaitis
03-25-2012, 20:38
We're six points ahead of the 8th place team(s) with six games left for all three teams.

Should be ok.

Dr. Doom
03-25-2012, 20:40
We would have to not win 3 games and they would have to win all of their games.

Devilsfanatic
03-25-2012, 20:48
It's amazing to think that people think we'll miss. :laugh: and if we do, then :laugh:

Dr. Doom
03-25-2012, 20:49
If we miss than we don't deserve to be in the playoffs anyways.

vonbonds
03-25-2012, 20:51
If we miss than we don't deserve to be in the playoffs anyways.

Yup...we aren't missing though.

Big#D
03-25-2012, 20:57
It's amazing to think that people think we'll miss. :laugh: and if we do, then :laugh:

vs CHI
vs TBL
@ CAR
vs NYI
@ DET
vs OTT

At least 4 of those are winnable. If the Devils win just 2 they have 94 and are pretty well guaranteed. Even at 90, they might squeak in.

Dr. Doom
03-25-2012, 20:59
People forget that the Penguins are the best team in the NHL right now. Last night against the Sens was a complete fluke and they had their backup in. Just like everyone said, they came out and took their frustration out on us. They beat Nashville 5-1 and they have one of the best defenses in the league.

ILikeItVeryMuch
03-25-2012, 22:16
i got laid, **** pittsburgh

Devilsfanatic
03-25-2012, 22:19
i got laid, **** pittsburgh

Was she hot?

ILikeItVeryMuch
03-25-2012, 22:24
5 at best, its me, come on

Devilsfanatic
03-25-2012, 22:33
5 at best? 5 out of 5?

Dr. Doom
03-25-2012, 22:48
i got laid, **** pittsburgh

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=trtfyNvS30I

guyincognito
03-25-2012, 23:08
It's possible that they could miss, although it's kinda ridiculous. :laugh: If they did, they'd more than deserve it. Me, I wouldn't be that mad because it means I get a substantial amount of money back. :laugh:

Devilsfanatic
03-25-2012, 23:14
It's possible, highly improbable. But hell, I didn't think the Red Sox would miss the playoffs or the Cards would win the World Series either.

Dr. Doom
03-25-2012, 23:18
The thing about missing is that not only would it require us sucking really badly, but it would require the teams chasing to pretty much win every single game they play. They also have a game against each other which would require a 3 point game to not have as big as an effect.

First step is get everyone healthy and don't have any new injuries. The second step is to get their game ready for the playoffs. Just like they saw tonight, you can't make any mistakes and you have to capitalize on the other team's mistakes.

guyincognito
03-25-2012, 23:27
Scenario that knocks them out would likely be a multi way tie for 7-8-9, in which case, we're done. Or they could lose all 6 games, but that's unlikely and even then they'd scrape up 2-3 points probably just by losing. And the multi-way tie would probably have to happen at 92 points. 94 points means both Buffalo and Washington need to only lose once and one of them already has to lose.

Dr. Doom
03-25-2012, 23:34
Washington Remaining Schedule:
Buffalo
@Boston
Montreal
@Tampa Bay
Florida
@Rangers

Buffalo Remaining Schedule:
@Washington
Pittsburgh
@Toronto
Toronto
@Philadelphia
@Boston

I just don't see it happening. They play each other, there are trap games against the lesser teams, and the top teams will still have something to play for because it looks like they will be fighting for seeding in the playoffs.

Zajac's Bowl Cut
03-26-2012, 06:02
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-yAgfji68IBY/T3BeXZRsm2I/AAAAAAAB6Fg/S9NArkUu0Ag/s946/crosbysidebyside.gif

that is ridiculous

guyincognito
03-26-2012, 06:15
lol, only real difference between the two plays is that he couldn't settle the puck down on the first one and had to slap it.

ladies and gentlemen, your New Jersey Devils defense. this is also why teams probably play hardcore Julienball

Lord Ned Stark
03-26-2012, 06:26
they all laughed at me when i said zidlicky sucked

guyincognito
03-26-2012, 06:28
they all laughed at me when i said zidlicky sucked

He puts up points. It's how they're aligned, they're all going to get beat like that, maybe Volch smashes him one of the two times, that's about it.

A passive *** team would have their forward beat there instead of a defenseman.

Big#D
03-26-2012, 06:54
Washington Remaining Schedule:
Buffalo
@Boston
Montreal
@Tampa Bay
Florida
@Rangers

Buffalo Remaining Schedule:
@Washington
Pittsburgh
@Toronto
Toronto
@Philadelphia
@Boston

I just don't see it happening. They play each other, there are trap games against the lesser teams, and the top teams will still have something to play for because it looks like they will be fighting for seeding in the playoffs.

Exactly. There's no way that Washington doesn't lose at least one of Boston, Tampa and NYR and Buffalo doesn't lose at least one of Pitsburgh, Philly and Boston, on top of the next game against one another.

Likewise, there's no way the Devils don't win at least one or two of CHI, TBL, CAR, NYI, DET, and OTT. If the Devils win one, they are at 92 and both WAS, BUF have to get at least 8 of 12 points (and OTT finishing above NJD) with one of BUF and WAS getting a maximum of 1 point in their game against each other. That means they need tp basically win all but one of those tough games and the Devils have to lose all but one of theirs. Very unlikely.

vonbonds
03-26-2012, 07:05
The fix for all of the Devils woes is winning, it cures all. If the Devils don't figure things out fast then at least we won't be disappointed come the post season. I am not worried as they have exceeded my expectations by (most likely) making the playoffs. Even if they somehow flame out they played better overall than I expected especially considering some of the key injuries yet again this team had to deal with.

Big#D
03-26-2012, 07:11
The Devils are a middle of the pack team. They can beat shitty teams if they play well, but they aren't going to beat the best teams in the East in a 7 games series. There are 5 teams above the Devils in the standings. Only one of them is beatable (Florida) without some sort of luck and they have less points than the Devils. PIT, BOS, NYR and PHI are all better teams than the Devils. FLA, OTT, WAS and BUF are all beatable, but it's not like the Devils are better by a large margin.

The worst part is, I'm not sure there's anything the Devils could do in the next few years to make the team any better than it is. They need to luck into another superstar. I just don't see that happening. Maybe SJS could really blow it up this summer and there'd be a shot at Thornton.

Lord Ned Stark
03-26-2012, 07:19
U can't expect them to all of a sudden turn it on. It's possible but highly unlikely.

Lord Ned Stark
03-26-2012, 07:24
I think what's really frustrating is that they ca
Beat any team when they turn it on. We just haven't seen that in a while

vonbonds
03-26-2012, 07:25
The Devils are a middle of the pack team. They can beat shitty teams if they play well, but they aren't going to beat the best teams in the East in a 7 games series. There are 5 teams above the Devils in the standings. Only one of them is beatable (Florida) without some sort of luck and they have less points than the Devils. PIT, BOS, NYR and PHI are all better teams than the Devils. FLA, OTT, WAS and BUF are all beatable, but it's not like the Devils are better by a large margin.

The worst part is, I'm not sure there's anything the Devils could do in the next few years to make the team any better than it is. They need to luck into another superstar. I just don't see that happening. Maybe SJS could really blow it up this summer and there'd be a shot at Thornton.

This is unfortunately spot on. Not only do the Devils need another superstar or two (Larsson needs to be 1 and a center is required too in my opinion) but think how hard that will be with the Devils having to give up a first in the next two seasons. If this draft has only second pairing defensemen or second/third line forwards in their draft position then this is the year they have to give it up. Who says next year will be better than this?

Zajac's Bowl Cut
03-26-2012, 07:30
the defense will improve. guys like Larsson and Fayne will only get better and then you have guys like Merrill, etc knocking on the door

vonbonds
03-26-2012, 07:33
I think what's really frustrating is that they ca
Beat any team when they turn it on. We just haven't seen that in a while

I don't think in a 7 game series without Marty going into God mode that is possible. We beat teams early in the season with our play usually declining as the year goes along. The team is older and doesn't have enough horses to run with most of the better teams for 7 straight games. The Devils will be a middling team for years to come until they get more upper echelon talent as Big#D says above.

Lord Ned Stark
03-26-2012, 07:38
I don't think in a 7 game series without Marty going into God mode that is possible. We beat teams early in the season with our play usually declining as the year goes along. The team is older and doesn't have enough horses to run with most of the better teams for 7 straight games. The Devils will be a middling team for years to come until they get more upper echelon talent as Big#D says above.

idk.. i will respectfully disagree because kovalchuk will go into god mode

Lord Ned Stark
03-26-2012, 07:41
I don't think in a 7 game series without Marty going into God mode that is possible. We beat teams early in the season with our play usually declining as the year goes along. The team is older and doesn't have enough horses to run with most of the better teams for 7 straight games. The Devils will be a middling team for years to come until they get more upper echelon talent as Big#D says above.

let us have an outstanding bet that if the devils make it out of the first round you owe me a beer and if they dont i owe you one.

vonbonds
03-26-2012, 07:48
let us have an outstanding bet that if the devils make it out of the first round you owe me a beer and if they dont i owe you one.

I will buy you a case gladly if you are right! Don't think I am not rooting for them. I just have my expectations reduced due to how this team is playing and past performances late in the season into the playoffs.

vonbonds
03-26-2012, 07:49
idk.. i will respectfully disagree because kovalchuk will go into god mode

It is a lot harder for a wing to take a game over than a center or defenseman. Kovy stick handles too much and isn't the best passer on the team. I hope he pulls a Cy Young though and gets 7 goals and 2 assists in the first round :).

Lord Ned Stark
03-26-2012, 08:01
oh no doubt it looks grim as **** right now. no one in their right mind would bet on them to get through the first round or two.. but any time marty's in net we have a chance

vonbonds
03-26-2012, 08:04
I will shut up after this as I am clearly a Debbie Downer here. No goalie in God mode can do it without the team playing excellent defense in front of him. The last team to do this was Montreal a few years ago with Halak and the Habs playing awesome defense with timely counter punches. Marty can play awesome all he wants, we need the rest of the team to comply to act out that script which we haven't seen at all this season on a consistent basis.

Dr. Doom
03-26-2012, 08:34
I don't think we need to luck into a player or anything like that. We have some of the best defensive prospects in the league. What we need is patience.

If our defense can be solid and Marty plays well, we can make a little noise in the playoffs. I don't think we have a chance to make it out of the second round, but you never know.

Getzo5
03-26-2012, 08:52
If we re-sign Parise, everything will be ok. Defense will only get better, goaltending shouldn`t be a problem and if Lou can change the supporting cast (if needed - 4th line seems to be pretty much set, if Tedenby can play top9, so does the 3rd line. Top6 will lack one or two wingers/1 C but that shouldn`t be a problem either.

We`ll be fine.

Big#D
03-26-2012, 10:52
i really don't think it's even about a d-man. i think larsson will be good, but i don't think he'll ever be great. he's probably not going to turn into a pronger or a lidstrom, probably not even a suter or weber or whatever. he'll be good, but he'll probably never be a surefire norris candidate. neither will merrill. both will be solid #2 or #3 guys when they develop fully. unless the devils luck into a fully developed top pairing d-man on the open market, they'll have to muddle through with all the 2nd pairing guys they have now and the ones in albany.

the same really goes with forward depth. the devils don't have any elite centres either. zajac is a nice 1b/2 centre on a great team. he needs another him. henrique could develop into that, but more likely will be a nice complement winger like parise. elias has great vision but he's not as fast as he once was and he's closer to retirement than he is to prime. josefson could top out at a zajac, but likely will be to zajac what paul martin was to rafalski or what rafalski was to niedermayer.

that leaves the devils with an elite scoring winger (kovalchuk), an extremely hard working very talented winger (parise) who may not be in nj next year, and a bunch of filler guys.

i'd love to argue that the devils could become an elite team in the east, but chances are, they'll continue being a middle power or perhaps even decline, depending on what happens in the ufa season.

Big#D
03-26-2012, 11:01
If we re-sign Parise, everything will be ok. Defense will only get better, goaltending shouldn`t be a problem and if Lou can change the supporting cast (if needed - 4th line seems to be pretty much set, if Tedenby can play top9, so does the 3rd line. Top6 will lack one or two wingers/1 C but that shouldn`t be a problem either.

We`ll be fine.

I'd love for the defence to get a lot better. I just don't see it happening with the current group of prospects. I see a lot of guys that are similar to what the Devils currently have at the NHL level ... 2nd pairing d-men.


As for Tedenby, I'd love for him to beocme a top-9 forward, but unless he does something to the game, he's going to struggle to make the NHL. He can bulk up or improve his shot to get to an NHL level forward, but honestly I think the best thing he could do is to improve his speed. He's fast now, but he's not so fast that the other quick guys in the league can't stay with him. If he can get that extra step on the d-men and use it to convert chances, he might have a chance to do really well. He's just not fast enough to do it now. And I think it'd probably have to happen with another team, because the way the Devils move the puck up the ice, he wouldn't be able to take advantage of his speed anyways. And once you're in the offensive zone, it's more about finding open space than being faster than the other guy.

Getzo5
03-26-2012, 11:39
You`re a pessimist, I`m an optimist, nothing wrong with that. Nobody knows what the future holds. All we can do is pray for our scouting to be efficient. We`ve been doing a pretty good job lately. You can always find the next Letang/Weber in the 2nd round. Let`s see how those kids pan out first.

As for Tedenby, he just needs to watch a shitload of Sabres games - games of Gerbe and Ennis. Watch and learn, kid, that`s all you gotta do. If he`s given a chance and performs like that, he`ll stick. If not, well, try to showcase him, make a solid looking package and send his *** somewhere else. I think he might flourish elsewhere but whatevs if we get something good in return.

onefatsurfer
03-26-2012, 11:57
Larsson looked SO good stepping right into the NHL after the draft. Sure, we can't count on him becoming a stud #1, but it was his first year and he has played exceptionally well thus far. Don't forget, he had to transition to a much smaller ice surface, and to playing considerably more games. He'll be much better next year, and, IMO, within 2-3 years he'll definitely be a #1 D.

selyar
03-26-2012, 12:02
Larsson looked SO good stepping right into the NHL after the draft. Sure, we can't count on him becoming a stud #1, but it was his first year and he has played exceptionally well thus far. Don't forget, he had to transition to a much smaller ice surface, and to playing considerably more games. He'll be much better next year, and, IMO, within 2-3 years he'll definitely be a #1 D.

he also doesn't sharpen his skates. so as soon as someone gets on his case about that, he might actually skate better.

Getzo5
03-26-2012, 12:03
Yeah, that`s the way I try to look at him. Unlike Jim said, the imrpovement was noticeable. I`m not going to pull a smartass and say sth like "what games were you watching for ****`s sake". It`s his overwhelmingly high standards and not taking all those factors (different speed of the game and physicality) into account.

He has shown some flashes and with more experience and training, he should be more than fine in two years. I firmly believe that.

Aslo: http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/showpost.php?p=46747719&postcount=105

lmao

Big#D
03-26-2012, 17:11
You`re a pessimist, I`m an optimist, nothing wrong with that. Nobody knows what the future holds. All we can do is pray for our scouting to be efficient. We`ve been doing a pretty good job lately. You can always find the next Letang/Weber in the 2nd round. Let`s see how those kids pan out first.

As for Tedenby, he just needs to watch a shitload of Sabres games - games of Gerbe and Ennis. Watch and learn, kid, that`s all you gotta do. If he`s given a chance and performs like that, he`ll stick. If not, well, try to showcase him, make a solid looking package and send his *** somewhere else. I think he might flourish elsewhere but whatevs if we get something good in return.

I don't really think I'm a pessimist. I still think that the Devils have the opportunity to win. They'll just need a little luck.

I think the team had better opportunities to win in the last few years that they've wasted / had bad matchups in the playoffs. The teams around them got better while the Devils stood still. It's not horrible, it's just not the best one could hope for.

I'd love for a great d-man to fall in the Devils lap. I'm not counting on it, bu then again, I don't need to. I root for the team no matter how good or how bad. I don't worry about whether the team is a winner or not because I just enjoy watching the games. I enjoy it more when they win, but I like watching it regardless of what they do.

Re: Tedenby, I think he's either got to be able to fly by people on the rush (he doesn't now) or he's got to be able to make the moves to get open. The Devils transition game isn't very fast, which wastes any speed he does have because it lets the d-man catch up to him before the Devils d-man can get the puck up to the forwards. That's why I think he'd be better of on a team that transitions well.

But who knows what kind of career he'll have. I thought for sure that Bergfors was going to be a star before he got derailed in his first year and then lost the opportunities in the next couple of years. That's what the NHL is all about ... taking advantage of the opportunities you are given. Guys like Bergfors, Corrente, Palmieri and Henrique show how fickle the NHL is with talent and how you can look like you have a promising career one year and then who knows what'll happen.

Dr. Doom
03-26-2012, 18:37
You perfectly explained why if people want Tedenby to be productive he has to play with more talented players. How was he supposed to be productive playing with Sykora, Carter, Boulton, and Janssen? They don't play a game that is anything like his.

Personally I think he would be perfect with Kovalchuk if both of them could improve their defensive game. Parise would be good too. His biggest asset is his speed, so he needs linemates that work off the rush. He is also good at cycling, but he does need to improve his strength and balance because guys like Chara just knock him over.

IMO he has a lot of potential if he is used properly. I was disappointed this season because he wasn't used properly at all and they kept him up to rot on the 4th line.